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Old 9th July 2012, 10:03 PM   #111
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oups my comment was inappropiate

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Old 9th July 2012, 10:57 PM   #112
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Shaun and I agree on this.
LOL.
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Old 17th July 2012, 05:18 PM   #113
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A couple of often misused words:

Refute does not mean "deny".

Peruse does not mean "skim over". You cannot "quickly peruse" or do a "quick perusal".
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Old 17th July 2012, 05:50 PM   #114
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Yes, politicians (and dodgy businessman) are fond of saying that they refute something, when in fact it is clear that they are not refuting it but merely asserting the opposite. To refute something is to demonstrate that it is false, not just say that it is false.
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Old 17th July 2012, 09:29 PM   #115
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Does a web dictionary refute those definitions?

refute: to deny the truth or accuracy of
Synonyms: rebut - confute - disprove - deny - negative - contradict

peruse: To read or examine, typically with great care
Synonyms: read
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Old 18th July 2012, 11:00 AM   #116
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Don't believe everything you read on the web. The Collins English Dictionary (2nd ed, 1986) says
"refute: to prove (a statement, theory, charge etc.) of (a person) to be false or incorrect; disprove.
"Usage: Refute is often used incorrectly as a synonym of Deny. In careful usage, however, to deny something is to state that it is untrue; to refute something is to assemble evidence in order to prove it untrue: 'all he could do was deny the allegations since he was unable to refute them'. "
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Old 18th July 2012, 12:18 PM   #117
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Good advice.
It had occurred to me that there may be subtleties of context with those words, and search hits seemed to back that up. But it's been refuted.
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Old 18th July 2012, 04:28 PM   #118
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I had an argument with one of the reporters from Dow Jones news service -- over 30 years ago -- for the use of the term "disbar" in a press release regarding a US Justice Dept. probe of National Semi. In strict usage, you can only disbar a lawyer. Legal usage is always and everywhere strict usage.
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Old 18th July 2012, 05:24 PM   #119
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I suppose you could extrapolate the meaning to cover other regulated professions. This is how language often evolves. Legitimate extrapolation or creative analogy is a better method than the crass ignorance sometimes exhibited by journalists; that merely degrades language by obliterating fine distinctions.
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Old 19th July 2012, 08:47 AM   #120
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What about a PSU filter consisting in three 10kuF capacitors?
Is it hard to write 10mF or 10,000uF?
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