An Even Darker and more Disturbing Thread...

[M Gregg]

Those that have seen,

The village...Will know how it reflects our planet...and the outside that we think we know...

Someone once said whatever it is, it will be a surprise...(Its not a horror film)

The Village - Those We Don't Speak Of - YouTube

Regards
M. Gregg

[freax]

Originally Posted by chris661

Remembered something that should probably be here: Simulation Theory.

Explanation follows..

The idea goes, if computing technology continues to advance at the rate it is, it would be possible in the future to build a computer that would be able to emulate (perfectly) the human mind, including conscience. Further on, you'd be able to emulate every human mind.
It makes sense, then, that the whole of humankind could one day be uploaded into some supercomputer, and carry on thinking as it did.

Now, suppose some of the computer-people became interested in history.
Without being able to "escape" and dig around for fossils or whatever, it would make sense to run a simulation (using some of the vast computing power available) of the universe, starting at the Big Bang, up until the point at which everyone ends up inside a computer.

nah we would just use perfect replica human robots that are controlled via the internet to interact with the real world, and there would be apsolutley no difference between our current interface with the world through our eyes and ears and other senses, though someones bitrate might increase as they have an orgasm.

Fact of the matter is we are already very nearly close to mimicing the human eye, we already have microphones which can outperform the human ear, and we are mastering the art of human movement, form, and sense of taste, smell, touch, and interfacing to these senses is just a commercial market away.

And people with prosthetic ears and limbs are already with us in our lives.

Quite laugably infact in regards to the human eye and ears, sure ok the eye and ears are analog but they do get converted into digital as they travel to the brain, sort of like PWM or FM and then into proteins as they are processed and stored by the brain, but the brain has thought processes that are analog too, we think and act in a hybrid of analog and digital. We have already interfaced with a mouses eye already.

http://www.quora.com/Is-the-human-br...log-or-digital
http://news.yale.edu/2006/04/12/brai...simultaneously
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1...rosthetic-eyes

Given all of this, can we say with any certainty that this (whatever it is that we're living in) isn't a simulation being run by some computer?

Chris

What would be the point? wouldn't building the actual universe be simpler? and already done...

I tend to believe that the universe had no beginning and has no end, just think about what you are saying for a second, its just like saying if there was a god who made that computer inorder to create our universe, but who created god who created our universe? it just opens up an even larger ball of string.

[M Gregg]

Its interesting to note,

That nature created electrical circuits whilst life was under water ie the brain/muscles etc...scientists think that land is required for electrical technology to be created by life forms..How would a life form that could only live in water create an electrical circuit or a computer?

Regards
M. Gregg

[M Gregg]

Rouge planets,

BBC News - 'Rogue planet' spotted 100 light-years away

Regards
M. Gregg

[M Gregg]

The strangelet, (Just for fun)

How do CERN know they arn't making dark matter if (we can't see it or measure it)at the impact point of the LHC? What else could be formed that we don't know about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangelet

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/lhc/safety-en.html

Regards
M. Gregg

[chris661]

I think they'd know if they had produced some dark matter: look at the energies of all the particles before and after collision. Use E=mc^2 on the difference to see how much mass was made. Count up neutrinos, quarks, whatever else comes out. If the sum of their masses = the energy difference, no problem. If some energy has gone amiss but there's no particles detected to suggest why, then some other matter is likely to have been created.

Chris