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Old 14th May 2012, 05:01 PM   #5461
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MY WORLD! Thanks Nigel for that link.
When it comes to turntables, I think we are all mostly in agreement.
The AR came first, and introduced many new ideas.
However, it was so cheaply constructed that it never was real hi fi.
The Thorens TD150 came next, based on the same ideas, BUT with a heavier platter and a better made tone arm. I still have a TD150 here, today.
Then the Linn LP12. I bought my first Linn in 1974. Never looked back, even though I worked on even more expensive turntables like the GALE. The Linn is yet more refined, better bearing, heavier platter, designed for static reduction, etc, etc.
Superficial understanding of any of these turntables is unproductive.
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Old 14th May 2012, 05:39 PM   #5462
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Surely the best mass produced TT....

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Old 14th May 2012, 05:51 PM   #5463
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I dunno, I'd nominate the AR. Or, maybe this one:

Technics SL-10 Owners Manual, Service Manual, Schematics, Free Download | Vinyl Engine
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Old 14th May 2012, 06:07 PM   #5464
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Good TT but the most intriguing is its cartridge :

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Cartridge type: EPC-310MC moving coil stereo

Frequency response: 10 to 60,000Hz
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Old 14th May 2012, 06:15 PM   #5465
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Next to my Garrards I would nominate the technics as my next worst table, reliable with good speed stability , but avg sonics at best , bettered by my AR( their last version), linn, thorens and micro Seiki ...

A good friend prefers his LP12 to his Wilson benisch ....
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Old 14th May 2012, 06:17 PM   #5466
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It's a really good cartridge- Technics had some amazing stuff in that era. Mine came with an EPC205C Mk3, which I later updated to an EPC100C-Mk4. These are some of the best cartridges ever made. And their cheapie was a strain gauge cartridge, which later became the heart of the Robertson and Transcendent phono systems.

The Technics linear tracking TTs were surprisingly good- I had to do some isolation mounting on the two I owned, but they were quiet, competent, and kind to records. And, of course, no inner-grove tracking angle distortion.
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Old 14th May 2012, 06:31 PM   #5467
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Well , i wasnt aware of such products since i used very few
equipement , usually a Shure as cartridge and a Dual TT for
most of my vinyl listening.

Unfortunately those cheap yet good quality audio gears went
at the same time as the rising CD standard.....
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Old 14th May 2012, 06:35 PM   #5468
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C,mon guys the most popular pro turntable of all time. A 1938 RCA!
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Old 14th May 2012, 07:56 PM   #5469
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This is the designer speaking . Linn and Thorens never mention him as far as I know ?

AR Turntable History | Vinyl Nirvana AR Turntable Acoustic Research Merrill Thorens For Sale

I don't like low efficiency speakers . However I make an exception with AR ( 3a ) .
Edgar Villchur "AR Turntable" (Mobile 2) - YouTube
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Brilliant, Nigel! Thank you. This is the first time I have ever seen Edgar Villchur, let alone hear it from him.
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Old 14th May 2012, 08:45 PM   #5470
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Default Empire turntables

I wanted to say about the Empire Troubadour . Almost forgotten now .

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=em...w=1251&bih=849

Also EMT .

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