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Old 7th March 2012, 08:30 AM   #3171
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dvv, you might want to look up the history of Teflon. The space race thing is just urban legend, or marketing.
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Old 7th March 2012, 08:34 AM   #3172
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As you just said, they is a demand from millions. No cure has been produced. Therefore:
There is demand for something that is not yet produced.
No doubt. I think most products are a response to an existing demand, whether real or perceived. Problems appear when the perceived demand is seen as much greater than it really is, or when it's misinterpreted and the product does not fully address the issues.

Those wishing to launch a product for which they have to create a demand are the ones who have their job cut out for them. To be sure, it's possible, but it's also far more risky and far more expensive in most cases.
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Old 7th March 2012, 08:58 AM   #3173
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The work was not really to create the vision, more rather to uncover it. It was a discovery rather than an invention. There's plenty more 'work' to be done but I prefer to call it fun to be had.



Yep, but then you rather go on to say that you've been down the road yourself. Which from the way you describe the marketing process it does rather seem that you haven't. You described (not in the post I'm replying to here, but in an earlier one) the traditional marketing 'push' process. I'm relying on marketing pull. Huge difference in approach, chalk vs cheese. The debate over whether supply creates demand or the other way around an important aspect of that difference - highlighted by Wavebourn's mentioning about the Walkman.
A misunderstanding here - when I said I've been down that road, I meant the whole path from an idea to an actual product, which then had to be sold as well as possible. Not an actual product like yours, which means there will be differences in the sales process, but I think more similarities than differences.

Ultimately, each and every product needs its own sales strategy, so no two are really ever the same, just similar. Even my own three cases were just similar, not the same. I have no doubt yours will, by its very nature, be still more different.

However, as I understood you, you are really developing a technology much more than a single product, or even a line of products, which is what I did. That alone will bring in many differences. Since I have practically zero insight into your line of work, I cannot even guess what all the differences might be, but selling a new product does have some similarities with others anyway.
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Old 7th March 2012, 09:03 AM   #3174
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Old 7th March 2012, 09:11 AM   #3175
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A misunderstanding here - when I said I've been down that road, I meant the whole path from an idea to an actual product, which then had to be sold as well as possible.
Well there's one difference - mine does not have to 'be sold' in that sense. Rather people will acquire it of their own accord - pull, rather than push. Secondly, I'm not going to be directly involved in that side of the business as I prefer to devote my efforts towards design and marketing. Marketing success to me means products (solutions in my case) sell themselves.
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Old 7th March 2012, 10:49 AM   #3176
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I guess some guys like small speakers and big amp's, others like big speakers and small Amp's, me, I like Big Speakers AND Big Amp's.

To me a good Amplifier quality measurement is DF (Dunker Factor - After Thomas Dunker who made a pair of 50Kg Monoblocks that output around 900mW at clipping) which is derived by dividing amplifier weight by output power in Watt's.

Amplifiers with a DF below 20 are commercial kids toys, just as speakers with mid-woofers smaller than 15"are kids toys...

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You dont want an 15 inch driver doing your midrange , Large speakers, large Amplifiers, always had from the age of 14. At 17 I had an pr of MC3500's, 60 Kg each, luckily i had plenty of friends to help lift at the time ..

I got into sand stuff after auditioning an custom built fully regulated SS beasty, (78) a yr later i heard @ Peter McGrath's, The levinson based QED system...

Never looked back .........
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Old 7th March 2012, 03:10 PM   #3177
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Funny, while I did not want the iPad.
Ciao T
We agree on something!

Does anyone here remember the 3Com Audrey disaster?
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Old 7th March 2012, 03:27 PM   #3178
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You dont want an 15 inch driver doing your midrange
Correction, YOU dont want an 15 inch driver doing your midrange.

I do, lower midrange, below around 600...800Hz.

2-Way with a 15" Bass-Mid and a suitable HF System is something else.

On of my all time favourite Speaker had a pair of 15" Mid-Woofers loaded into short front horns, a 2" exit (4" voice coil/diaphragm) compression driver above around 500Hz and a 1"Compression driver tweeter.

While this is a PA Speaker for use > 150Hz only (you could EQ it to go down to 60Hz but doing that was a waste of a top notch "top". The sound even running at very high levels is all you ever wanted from a HiFi Speaker.

This system was rated 1KW AES and 110dB/W/m...

We used to drive them with bridged big Yammies and for a short time some Crown Macrotech 10K, before these got relegated to sub bass duties driving Bass Tech Seven's and 4 * 10" Midbass horns to fill in between them and the tops...

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