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Old 13th June 2014, 11:53 PM   #12911
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Holland put a walloping on Spain , Not good , have to hide now ...
Were the UK bookies really giving 500:1 against the Dutchies?
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Old 14th June 2014, 12:07 AM   #12912
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500:1 ! No way , in the rain they have no chance against the dutch, i guess Ecclestone won a fortune ...


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Old 14th June 2014, 09:34 AM   #12913
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Last night Colleen and I set up the Dynaco 25's in the village hall . Talk about superb . Even Dynaco's slightly dull " normal " tweeter setting was right for the acoustics . In 1978 I did the same and I still love these speakers . What they lack is OK for when they were designed . Cliff Richard wasn't as he was via the OB's . He was the same without being in time machine mode of reprising his 1959 performance as if live . The OB get close to doing that . I heard it once before using stacked ESL 57's . It is rare .

On the way back I said the Netherlands would do well , also Argentina . Colleen is a football expert and said " how the hell would you know " . Two teams she dislikes . I dislike our team as they bring misery to the nation ( please prove me wrong ) . The pub was empty last night , Friday night is usually packed . Even pubs with TV's were empty .

Five one, five one , five one . Problem is Spain is almost my second home in my heart so not overjoyed to be right .

I choose old USA police series Cagney and Lacy to test the universality of things . It sounds OK and at times good . Then shock of my life . The music that I suspect to be recorded on later is not good , it is top notch . The sound has ideal microphone placement . Whoever did it was a perfectionist . It is so good to know what is the speaker and what is the recording . The average 1970's TV sound is like an off centre voice coil when at low volume . Then an overlay of deep sound stage accurate music mixed with the mediocre to poor . Wow . On the Dynaco's it is a washout as you would expect ( 70's + 70's = very poor ) . For what it is worth the Dynaco's usually better many modern speakers . The problems of box speaker design prove the laws of Physics didn't change over the years . KEF LS 50 I suspect would be the ideal one for me if now choosing a small speaker . Celestion SL6 also as a middle of my time line ( didn't like the metal box version ) . LS3/5A is OK but very limited in how much power can be safely used . Meridain 105 amps worked well with them . Alas they bottomed too easily when getting to sound good . Quad 405 never seemed to be ideal with them .
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in the rain
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Old 15th June 2014, 08:28 AM   #12916
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Nige must really be sick now bwoy , Pasta for heevar ....
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Old 15th June 2014, 10:18 AM   #12917
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I have to now admire Colleen more than I already do . She said Italy will win and we drank Cavi a nice obscure Italian wine . I met Colleen at quizzes . Between us we often get 100 % in music section and she often gets 100 % in football ( me 0% ) . It is nice to know someone who loves her national team like no other yet still see's the bigger picture . A weird thing is she tested me on 1970's football players last night . I got 100 % right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As I said it helped at school when Professor Pea-pod ( yep ) showed some interest .

I loved the game last night and thought our boys made it better for all that watched who wouldn't have our patriotism . The analogy is trying to make good speakers and starting with the wrong drive units . It might work surprising well but ultimately will not succeed .

Bosnia v Argentina might be an eye opener I hope . I love the Argentine game even though we English are not allowed to . I am not British if it needs saying .

My mate Martyn and I went to a pub during the last World Cup . Martyn starts mouthing off that he can't see the point of football . To which I said " F-----g well shut up , they will linch you " He wouldn't so I got a bit stronger and said if he didn't he needed to find his own way home . That seemed to do it . We got away with it . Half an hour later the guys in the pub insisted we had a meal on them . Martyn likes Harbeth speakers so maybe his lack of social awareness is understandable . I might be like it on this forum . I am not like it where people can hit out . Goodness in the USA that means guns .

Colleen and I went to Madrid some years ago . If you haven't gathered she is a football experts expert . We went to a local bar and watched Manchester United verses Barcelona . Many Madrid people came in wearing Man U colours . Colleen and I were a bit shocked . Simple the Madrid people said , " we hate Barcelona " . BTW . Madrid , you must visit if you can . What lovely people .

I was in Italy in 1982 and was in a Turin bar during the Italy v Germany final with my linguist friend Neil . Every time the German's did a slightly naughty move the Italians turned to us and said we were to blame . The paranoia was so thick you could feel it . We said that it was a little unlikely we would side with Germany . The Turin said to us how come . We said we had had a few arguments with Germany in the past but maybe they hadn't heard of it . The ultimate was " we looked German " . Italy was not playing the cleanest game and won . Still somehow we felt the Germans had ruined it for the Turin . Maybe they scored a goal ?
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Old 15th June 2014, 12:41 PM   #12918
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It is rumored we will soon loose BBC FM . Of the alternative ways of getting BBC Radio via TV seems the best . This wasn't true at the beginning of DAB radio and it was the preferred source , it was downgraded soon after introduction .

Doing TV Radio 3 verse FM some fascinating differences . Superficially TV is best ( a friend says it is the true DAB spec as was planned ) , that is until lady with a strong pre-war German accident came on . She is more obviously a great linguist on FM ( how she says words ) . The stereo is fascinating . The separation is better on TV which makes it sound like Ping Pong . I now have a definition of stereo . If 20 db separation it is enhanced mono . Real life is enhanced mono . I suspect why this was Ping Pong is the sound is still FM biased . I even suspect an FM tuner or analogue of it used to hear the stereo spread . No big deal to have a blend circuit . I hate hole in the middle . OB's used for this . On switch on every morning the lack of the last 1 octave is obvious . Funny how it isn't enough to destroy these comparisons . Old experimental AM stereo was 10 kHz . I can imagine it was very good . It left out 30 Hz if I am right and used double SSB . The conventional AM radio seeing it as mono . The 30 Hz to make a centre notch to align the stereo ( 60 Hz total) . I think BBC used 7 kHz mono although stated was 4.5 kHz . If a radio has a very good circuit it is possible to go beyond suspected parameters . I have a Sony ST 3950 4 wave band . It has an almost hi fi quality on Short-wave that makes concerts enjoyable . A run of the mill CD player does not have this quality albeit ticking the obvious hi fi boxes . Julian Vereker told me if my memory is correct that 10 kHz AM was the highest quality sound he every heard . If also correct used where FM was impossible due to transmitter location . This was Long-wave . I suspect these tests went on unknown to 99% of people and only a few had the car radios that could decode the signal ( that was said to be it's market ) . A bit like French Colour TV I saw in 1966 . It was 819 lines . This was abandoned for the public version .

My TV box is a very high spec Panasonic . A joy to own .

My speculation is that the FM transmitter still gets a better digital link and the gubbins of FM transmission and reception is not enough to ruin it . I also supect FM ground rules were set when engineers had time to be thorough , this survives and is duplicated when updated or repaired . I have a $5 mono FM transmitter . If I am careful not to over modulate it , it is hi fi . Even the 0.2 MHz steps at 107 MHz are accurate !
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Old 15th June 2014, 01:28 PM   #12919
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Old 15th June 2014, 04:26 PM   #12920
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The way this seems to be going, Nige, you may soon lose BBC altogether. The stupid politicans are perfectly capable of that in order to "save" money.

I hear about downgrades all the time. I've been out of UK for over 40 years now, but I am still addicted to the Beeb I used to love to listen to in 1970. THE reference standard radio bar none.
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