Sound Quality Vs. Measurements - Page 111

gk7 · 19th January 2012, 10:30 AM

Then this thread is superfluous ? There are already measurements that establish a objective relation to the subjective perception of "sound quality" ?

ThorstenL · 19th January 2012, 10:31 AM

Sy,

Quote:

Originally Posted by SY

An extremely rich literature. I'm sure that if you google "sensory research," "hedonic analysis," and similar terms, you'll find the thousands of textbooks and papers which deal with this research area.

Please provide direct references to research on auditory perception in the context of audio systems playing music that are relevant and provide proof of the ability "to measure" sonic phenomena.

All else is just questionable generalisation of specific research and bad science.

Ciao T

abraxalito · 19th January 2012, 10:33 AM

Are there? That's what I'm asking for evidence for. The claim has been made so let's see the support for it.

gaetan8888 · 19th January 2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Wavebourn

Apply 1 MHz triangle on full swing to see close how it behaves on 20 KHz sine. If it is subtle on oscilloscope and hard to measure, it may be well audible as "something is odd". But if it looks nice, fronts of squares are equal, that means at least stereo image would not be blurred by phase intermodulation.

Hello Wavebourn

Can you explain more about this test, with practical examples ?

Thank you

Bye

Gaetan

SY · 19th January 2012, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abraxalito

Yes but 'extremely rich literature' is not evidence.

If more than a century of research results are insufficient, I'm afraid I can't help you.

abraxalito · 19th January 2012, 10:41 AM

Oh so now its not 'extremely rich literature' but 'a century of research results'. Perhaps we're getting warmer. OK so which of those research results support your specific claim?

a.wayne · 19th January 2012, 10:46 AM

T,

what are your thoughts on the distortion spectrum I posted up earlier on the soulution amp .....

SY · 19th January 2012, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abraxalito

Oh so now its not 'extremely rich literature' but 'a century of research results'. Perhaps we're getting warmer. OK so which of those research results support your specific claim?

Ah, we're back to word games. Sorry, not playing.

a.wayne · 19th January 2012, 10:55 AM

Sy,
Forget the word games , Any comments on graphs posted ....

abraxalito · 19th January 2012, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SY

Sorry, not playing.

Apology not required for not putting up evidence - happens all the time.

19th January 2012, 10:30 AM	#1101
gk7 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vienna / Austria	Then this thread is superfluous ? There are already measurements that establish a objective relation to the subjective perception of "sound quality" ? __________________ Regards, Georg

19th January 2012, 10:33 AM	#1103
abraxalito diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hangzhou - Marco Polo's 'most beautiful city'. 700yrs is a long time though... Blog Entries: 62	Are there? That's what I'm asking for evidence for. The claim has been made so let's see the support for it. __________________ When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure. C.A.E. Goodhart

19th January 2012, 10:41 AM	#1106
abraxalito diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hangzhou - Marco Polo's 'most beautiful city'. 700yrs is a long time though... Blog Entries: 62	Oh so now its not 'extremely rich literature' but 'a century of research results'. Perhaps we're getting warmer. OK so which of those research results support your specific claim? __________________ When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure. C.A.E. Goodhart

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a.wayne diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Front Row Center	T, what are your thoughts on the distortion spectrum I posted up earlier on the soulution amp .....

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