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Old 18th September 2003, 01:48 AM   #71
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Default they?

you mean the whole sad coverup
sy, can you do the math?
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I've had some small experience with data analysis.
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Can you look beyond the math to see how bias creeps in in the data collection phase?
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Old 18th September 2003, 06:12 AM   #75
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An excerpt from a recent study:

http://www.imprint.co.uk/pdf/Dean.pdf

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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
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Old 18th September 2003, 08:23 PM   #77
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Circlotron:

It is true that statistics can be manipulated. But they can also give you a snapshot into what is going on.

The pollster John Zogby correctly predicted the 8 point Clinton win over Bob Dole in 1996, and Al Gore's 1 point popularity lead in 2000. Both predictions were correct right to the percentage point.

Moving away from politics, I do believe that a lot of analysis of what goes on inside an atom is based on statistical probabilities.

Both in the "hard" sciences and the social sciences, data analysis has opened whole new vistas. The fact that so much talk on the internet consists of "my guy has better numbers than your guy nyaah nyaah" is an unfortunate by product.
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Hi kelticwizard. I agree fully. BTW, did you ever read the first line of my signature? Also, I am unashamedly poo-poo-ing astrology at every turn here. Also, did anyone find any horoscopes for the day of the WTC collapse?
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Hi kelticwizard. I agree fully. BTW, did you ever read the first line of my signature?
Sure I read your signature, Circlotron. If you will recall, I was the one who started a whole thread about one of your signatures.


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Also, did anyone find any horoscopes for the day of the WTC collapse?
You know, I just might do that. The New York Times won't have it, but the local library should have our area paper on microfiche, and that paper carries the horoscope. Might take a few days, but it might be fun.

Of course, those who defend astrology will say that newspaper astrologers are entertainers who are unconnected from what they regard as real knowledge. But what the heck.
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