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kelticwizard · 3rd July 2012, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nigel pearson

I am surprised a thing as important as this would seem to have an archetypal English name likes Higgs . ...........Perhaps Higgs is a pen name or just made up ?

You're right, you English take the flourish out of everything with those simple names.

Too bad you couldn't have called it the Pendragon Particle.

nigel pearson · 3rd July 2012, 06:50 AM

I got into trouble with my German friend Kurt when I said I used a Cockcroft - Walton voltage multiplier . He said " no no no , what is the scientific name " I replied " A Cockcroft - Walton voltage multiplier " . " That is typical of you English to name things after the inventor " . Kurt makes RDC cones , a very good engineer . C-W were loosely connected with this stuff ( Alpha particles if memory is correct ) . The multiplier became part of everyday life in TV's . The TV tube used as the smoothing device .

DF96 · 3rd July 2012, 11:03 AM

Maybe we name things after the inventor because, unlike the French etc., we don't name streets after people (well, not to the same extent as they do). When we do name a street after a person we usually only use their surname. A major exception (if it ever happens) will be Boris Island: London's new hub airport in the middle of the River Thames. Planes will have to land gently there in order to avoid disturbing the nearby munitions ship.

tvrgeek · 3rd July 2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by godfrey

Oboy! I can't wait to hear what....... Oh wait, they've already told us what they're going to announce.

So, um, what's the point of Wednesday's announcement again?

Press coverage = $$ Publish or perish.

Wavebourn · 3rd July 2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DF96

Eh? I'm talking about spontaneous symmetry breaking etc., not transmutation.

Transmutation was just one application of known laws, in order to get some grants for the research work.

tvrgeek · 7th July 2012, 09:23 PM

So, if they said they positively found the Higgs, that would be that. Go home. They said they found something that looks like they think it may be one of five different Higgs. Not only that, there was a gap between the trace of the Higgs and where the photons popped up, so they are thinking there is an unseen intermediary particle. Maybe dark matter. Sounds like they want more funding to play with their little machine. Watch, they will want a bigger one!

Wavebourn · 7th July 2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tvrgeek

So, if they said they positively found the Higgs, that would be that. Go home. They said they found something that looks like they think it may be one of five different Higgs. Not only that, there was a gap between the trace of the Higgs and where the photons popped up, so they are thinking there is an unseen intermediary particle. Maybe dark matter. Sounds like they want more funding to play with their little machine. Watch, they will want a bigger one!

Grown up boys need bigger toys.

DF96 · 7th July 2012, 10:08 PM

Their existing toy will get a bit 'bigger' after its next planned shutdown. In the meantime, further analysis of existing results should make it clearer what they have seen so far.

tvrgeek · 7th July 2012, 11:51 PM

Now I am looking for an explanation of how 5 versions of a particle fill the position of one in the standard model. Doesn't that break it?

Really basic question: So if these particles, all particles, are actually resonances in space-time as a particle in the way we think of a grain of sand is not relevant to quantum physics, why don't I see anything on frequency when they describe them? They talk energy, but not frequency or number of cycles.

SY · 8th July 2012, 04:16 AM

Energy and frequency are pretty much the same thing, give or take a factor of Planck's constant.

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3rd July 2012, 06:50 AM	#1032
nigel pearson diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oxfordshire	I got into trouble with my German friend Kurt when I said I used a Cockcroft - Walton voltage multiplier . He said " no no no , what is the scientific name " I replied " A Cockcroft - Walton voltage multiplier " . " That is typical of you English to name things after the inventor " . Kurt makes RDC cones , a very good engineer . C-W were loosely connected with this stuff ( Alpha particles if memory is correct ) . The multiplier became part of everyday life in TV's . The TV tube used as the smoothing device .

3rd July 2012, 11:03 AM	#1033
DF96 diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2007	Maybe we name things after the inventor because, unlike the French etc., we don't name streets after people (well, not to the same extent as they do). When we do name a street after a person we usually only use their surname. A major exception (if it ever happens) will be Boris Island: London's new hub airport in the middle of the River Thames. Planes will have to land gently there in order to avoid disturbing the nearby munitions ship.

7th July 2012, 09:23 PM	#1036
tvrgeek diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Md	So, if they said they positively found the Higgs, that would be that. Go home. They said they found something that looks like they think it may be one of five different Higgs. Not only that, there was a gap between the trace of the Higgs and where the photons popped up, so they are thinking there is an unseen intermediary particle. Maybe dark matter. Sounds like they want more funding to play with their little machine. Watch, they will want a bigger one!

7th July 2012, 10:08 PM	#1038
DF96 diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2007	Their existing toy will get a bit 'bigger' after its next planned shutdown. In the meantime, further analysis of existing results should make it clearer what they have seen so far.

7th July 2012, 11:51 PM	#1039
tvrgeek diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Md	Now I am looking for an explanation of how 5 versions of a particle fill the position of one in the standard model. Doesn't that break it? Really basic question: So if these particles, all particles, are actually resonances in space-time as a particle in the way we think of a grain of sand is not relevant to quantum physics, why don't I see anything on frequency when they describe them? They talk energy, but not frequency or number of cycles.