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Klakmuf 11th June 2011 09:27 PM

I can't stand this anymore (but I will)
 
This is simple outburst about a scandal that goes on since many years.
Please take notice I have nothing against England.
When a new English hi-fi item is released (Nad, Cambridge Audio, gasp, even Wharfedale), the magazine What-hifi writes jubilant reviews, without restraint. Then a couple of lines of this review are put on all commercial web pages "to prove" the goodness of the product. And the buyers of the rest of the world buy this. If a German, French or Italian magazine would do the same for their national brands, they would be granted of a visit from the whole Consumer association the day after.

DF96 11th June 2011 09:38 PM

Hi-fi may be the only thing where "Made in England" might still be both true and increase sales. We don't have much manufacturing left, so at least we can enjoy the little we have. Most of what we do have is foreign-owned (including some of the brands you mentioned?).

john dozier 11th June 2011 10:03 PM

As a colonial, I have no dog in this fight, but I might point out that the BBC has been the model and paradigm for most broadcast and sound reproduction standards.

nigelwright7557 11th June 2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klakmuf (Post 2602198)
This is simple outburst about a scandal that goes on since many years.

England does have a few consumer TV programs that chase up bad traders.
We have "Watchdog" and "Rogue traders" to name two.

carbondated 11th June 2011 11:57 PM

Yes, unfortunately the national pride of being designed/manufactured/assembled/handcrafted in England by a wholly British-owned firm can be a selling point for hi-fi, as well as cars, etc. European hifi is still within reach because of the EU. American hifi is limited to a few brands at the top end because the pricing is insane.

kevinkr 14th June 2011 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by carbondated (Post 2602330)
Yes, unfortunately the national pride of being designed/manufactured/assembled/handcrafted in England by a wholly British-owned firm can be a selling point for hi-fi, as well as cars, etc. European hifi is still within reach because of the EU. American hifi is limited to a few brands at the top end because the pricing is insane.

You should see what SME arms and tables sell for here.. Very high price of admission for what is admittedly a very good product line..

HornTube 7th August 2011 07:16 AM

The Englishmen can be proud of their Hi-Fi history & products. Just compare the English magazines to the German magazines (the dark side). Nearly all German reviews and awards (not only Hi-Fi) are bought by the industry and there are some very nasty products like Burmester (pure rip-off) or compare Canton (yikes) or MB quar(k)t with a glorious sounding BBC monitor from 1969.
BBC monitors: Masters of timing & musicality.
Canton: Ravel's Bolero will sound like hordes of Nazis stomping "rumtata rumtata..." and that without Karajan!
The new High-End magazines in Germany are an other problem: Everything they are reviewing is really good no critics allowed there - so why reviewing at all ohhh I forgot the good paying HiFi industry in Germany. Not to mention other magazines in other countries...

Whatever, I rather read HiFi-World, Hi-Fi Choice & Hi-Fi News than Stereop(l)ay.

BTW, Canton won every shootout in the last 30 years with only one exception!!! Ohh please, I will pray for Bomber Harris this night;)

HornTube 7th August 2011 07:31 AM

http://www.rafbombercommand.com/pics...hree_c_one.jpg
"By all the kings horses where is this devil driven factory of Krautton?"

;)

Hiten 7th August 2011 08:31 AM

Not particularly related to electronics or hifi or the companies and review websites mentioned, but generally I like British designs. In my limited vocabulary I will say British designs are/were straight forward, well thought of and very well made.
Don't know the recent manufacturing scene in Britain, as all manufacturing has moved to China and other countries :sad: . Could that be the reason they market their products by such methods ?

HornTube 7th August 2011 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiten (Post 2663343)
I will say British designs are/were straight forward, well thought of and very well made.

Quiet true.


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