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Old 10th February 2011, 05:09 PM   #1
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Default Americans too legislative? or not?

I am a member of Ebay.co.uk

Recently I was viewing some items for sale from the UK seller when I came across their terms & conditions:

"My items are not for sale in USA as you are too much a ligatious society"

I am intrigued.....do you sue everyone for everything?

If I want to sell you guys in America something...should I be worried?
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Old 10th February 2011, 05:35 PM   #2
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I have been on ebay for many years and things do change...
Ebay used to be fun, especially here in usa you could find nice stuff on ebay for peanuts. These days some people take broken receiver, not worth $10, and start selling its parts, like pots, meters, boards, heatsink, trafo...each for $10. Rediculous what some people ask for junk these days.
Plus these days I find way too many crooks on ebay. Alarmingly here in us. I do not care about china and hong-kong, half of those are crooks.
I do not know about "everyone sue everyone for everything..", but certainly ebay policy changed a lot. If you come across a bidder who does not pay, you can not even leave negative feedback to him. Stupid policy. Yet, he can leave you, seller, with negative feedback. If he bids, and decides later that he overbids, or no longer wants it, nothing you can do. I contacted ebay many times about it and their response was "it would detract bidders if you can leave them with negative feedback." Yet, you pay fees as seller to ebay.
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Old 10th February 2011, 06:04 PM   #3
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So where does that leave the "honest guy"? Like me. Spent 30+ years collecting.

As a hi-fi collector and music listener what I do is buy a number of the item I require and then sell what I don't need.

I always keep at least 4 of what I don't need, because of minimum order, and sell on my extras at a price which doesn't include profit.

BUT.... I am led to believe that if I sell anything to America then I am open to the "sue me" practices that go on over there.

I want to sell off some of my hi-fi British and EU collection, as my teenagers don't appreciate the difference between MP3 & hi-fi, but perhaps ebay is not the right place to go.
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Old 10th February 2011, 06:13 PM   #4
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We're geting too close to our no politics policy here guys. I have removed one post, let's keep the comments in check please.
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Old 10th February 2011, 06:25 PM   #5
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I think there's not much worry. If someone sues you in the US, it's going to be hideously expensive and likely unproductive to try to get a judgment enforced in Spain. Worth it for multi million dollar deals, not so much for a few hundred bucks. If someone wants to sue you in Spain, it's going to cost them a LOT and probably go nowhere.

The E-Bay guy is being a drama queen, IMO.

BTW, the word you mean is "litigious," not "legislative."
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Old 10th February 2011, 06:29 PM   #6
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Ooops, hope it wasn't me.

I wish to say that my listening room is open to all you guys from around the world.

I worked hard for my "Soundproofed Room" and my Speakers. After that I worked even harder mending my amps. You are all welcome if ever you visit Barcelona in the mountains....

Bring along a 2SA1215 transistor (or 6), and I will fill the coffee cup.

Yes guys I live in the absolute mountains above Barcelona and I will gladly let you put on an LP, (If you promise not to score it), choice of 13 record decks.

One thing.......you will go home wanting my speakers..
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Old 10th February 2011, 06:44 PM   #7
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No, I meant the UK guy was a drama queen, not you.
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Old 10th February 2011, 06:45 PM   #8
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yeah, I know, that was my post, I agree it had no place here...

Reeler, post some pics of your system please...
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Old 10th February 2011, 06:48 PM   #9
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you will go home wanting my speakers
This statement is true and I haven't even seen them. I am known to give lost and lonely speakers a good home where they can be warm, feel loved and be with others of their kind.

Let's see some pictures of your speakers.

EDIT: I see adason is quicker with the quill than I.
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Old 10th February 2011, 07:41 PM   #10
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The beasts you asked for.

Speakers beyond comprehension. What I choose to base my amplification on.

25 years searching for speakers to adjust and develope my amps to.

Found it. One amp to each driver. Harmonisation.

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