Plastic into Oil

planet10 · 12th October 2010, 06:37 PM

Man Invents Machine To Convert Plastic Into Oil

In Japanese with English subtitles.

dave

CLS · 13th October 2010, 06:09 AM

I don't think it's a good idea at all.

It's heating up, eventually boiling the plastic, then taking the oil from condensed vapor.

So, how much energy is used during the process? And how to get that energy? And, how is that 'recycled' oil put into real usage? Filling into cars, and driving those cars to add even more greenhouse gas? Or making more plastic?

Endless circles. Until when?

Stop crazily manufacturing, purchasing, dumping... etc., change all those bad habbits of wasting things might help, a little, maybe, before it's too late...

DigitalJunkie · 13th October 2010, 07:56 AM

There's a company here in Oregon that's been working on that for a while.Agri-Plas,or something like that.

Pit Hinder · 13th October 2010, 08:36 AM

CLS,

it´s time for people to wake up. So you don´t heat the whole house up to 100 in order to be able to be barefoot in the bathroom? Spend money on insulation that you get back by a lower electricity bill within two years? Avoid buying goods that are packed in six layers of plastic you´ll have to pay to get rid of?

Bad boy. You rather spend your money on having fun than feeding companies who won´t even know you when you ask them for a job? Bad boy.

Pit

7n7is · 13th October 2010, 11:49 AM

Here's what we need.
Oil Shale Links

Anyone who gives a pseudo-rightous answer saying its uneconomical didn't read the articles.

SY · 13th October 2010, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planet10

Man Invents Machine To Convert Plastic Into Oil

In Japanese with English subtitles.

dave

Gimmick.

There are some interesting ways to convert plastics to methane using bacteria.

Charles Darwin · 16th October 2010, 01:42 AM

Aren't many plastics made from oil in the first place?

One could say "man makes machine which reverses some processes. Hooray…
How much energy (read: oil) does that machine use?

SY · 16th October 2010, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Darwin

Aren't many plastics made from oil in the first place?

Indirectly, yes. The oil is cracked to make base monomers (e.g, ethylene, propylene), which are then polymerized to form plastic resins. As you gathered, the Second Law of Thermodynamics applies here in spades.

johansen · 16th October 2010, 06:18 AM

the only reason you can't burn plastics is due to all the other crap in the plastic to make it more like plastic....

aside from pvc, most plastics are 90% oil, or oil plus oxygen.. many can be burnt with an appropriate scrubber to trap the unburnt hydrocarbons and chlorine/bromine compounds. when you burn it hot enough there are no complex toxins left.

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13th October 2010, 06:09 AM	#2
CLS diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Taiwan	I don't think it's a good idea at all. It's heating up, eventually boiling the plastic, then taking the oil from condensed vapor. So, how much energy is used during the process? And how to get that energy? And, how is that 'recycled' oil put into real usage? Filling into cars, and driving those cars to add even more greenhouse gas? Or making more plastic? Endless circles. Until when? Stop crazily manufacturing, purchasing, dumping... etc., change all those bad habbits of wasting things might help, a little, maybe, before it's too late...

13th October 2010, 07:56 AM	#3
DigitalJunkie diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Portland,Oregon Blog Entries: 4	There's a company here in Oregon that's been working on that for a while.Agri-Plas,or something like that.

13th October 2010, 08:36 AM	#4
Pit Hinder diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hannover, Germany	CLS, it´s time for people to wake up. So you don´t heat the whole house up to 100 in order to be able to be barefoot in the bathroom? Spend money on insulation that you get back by a lower electricity bill within two years? Avoid buying goods that are packed in six layers of plastic you´ll have to pay to get rid of? Bad boy. You rather spend your money on having fun than feeding companies who won´t even know you when you ask them for a job? Bad boy. Pit

13th October 2010, 11:49 AM	#5
7n7is diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA	Here's what we need. Oil Shale Links Anyone who gives a pseudo-rightous answer saying its uneconomical didn't read the articles.

16th October 2010, 01:42 AM	#7
Charles Darwin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Birmingham, UK	Aren't many plastics made from oil in the first place? One could say "man makes machine which reverses some processes. Hooray… How much energy (read: oil) does that machine use?

16th October 2010, 06:18 AM	#9
johansen diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: seattle, wa	the only reason you can't burn plastics is due to all the other crap in the plastic to make it more like plastic.... aside from pvc, most plastics are 90% oil, or oil plus oxygen.. many can be burnt with an appropriate scrubber to trap the unburnt hydrocarbons and chlorine/bromine compounds. when you burn it hot enough there are no complex toxins left.