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Old 1st September 2010, 10:36 PM   #1
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Default Einstein's simultaneity theory is impossible

Here's some more dangerous dissident questioning.

Einstein claims events may be simultaneous in one frame of reference relative to one observer and not simultaneous to another observer. This is supposed to follow from the belief that the speed of light is always constant.

Read about The train-and-platform thought experiment here: Relativity of simultaneity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now add to this two stop watches, one at each end of the train car, ie. front and back. Have electronic circuits arranged to stop each stop watch when it senses a photon hitting the wall of the train car (ie. using a photocell). Start each stop watch while the train car is at rest relative to the observer on the outside of the train car, start the train car and do the experiment as described. After the experiment, stop the train car and bring the two observers and the two stop watches together. If the observers saw the photons hitting the front and back of the train car at different times during the experiment (when the train car was in motion relative to the outside observer), then they should both see different times on the stop watches, after the experiment even while both observers and both stop watches are in the same frame of reference. Yes, according to Einstein, two people can see different readings on the same clock and yet at the same time Einstein says this is impossible. Remember in the twin paradox the dodge used by the Einsteinian mystics to get assymetric time dilation. The twin that is accelerated is supposed to be the twin that undergoes time dilation.

You can use stopwatches to show events are always simultaneous to all observers anywhere showing that an instant in time is the same instant in time everywhere. This also shows that the speed of light is NOT constant.
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Since you don't understand the basics of relativity, why do you continue to write about it?
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I do understand Einsteinian relativity. That's how I know its impossible. Its not the same as Newtonian relativity, either.
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Old 1st September 2010, 11:03 PM   #4
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I do understand Einsteinian relativity.
No, you've demonstrated again and again that you don't. This is the most recent example. At this point, you're just trolling.
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Old 2nd September 2010, 12:05 AM   #5
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Hi,

Arguing Enstien is wrong because you know its impossible is utterly inane.
All you are proving is you have no real idea what you are talking about.

If he was wrong somebody would have said so years ago, and they
did regarding quantum physics, but there is no denying his brilliance.

There is no ioata of any evidence that the speed of light is not constant.
You cannot show it is not without being stupid. Its the fundamental tenet
of relativity, as opposed To Newtionian mechanics, its the whole point.

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Here's some more dangerous dissident questioning.
You wish. You're a danger to nobody except yourself.

Hey everybody! 7n7is just posted some ideas on diyaudio.com that are going to overturn the whole of modern physics!

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What's with this Einstein (anti)fetish?
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There is no ioata of any evidence that the speed of light is not constant.
Actually there is plenty...
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Here's some more dangerous dissident questioning.

Read about The train-and-platform thought experiment here: Relativity of simultaneity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I suggest stop reading Wikipedia for a moment and take a look at this book:

Amazon.com: The Classical Theory of Fields, Fourth Edition: Volume 2 (Course of Theoretical Physics Series) (9780750627689): L D Landau, E.M. Lifshitz: Books

We can continue discussion when you say you understand significant part of what is written there
Usually it takes 6 months to year to get through it (If I remember correctly it took us a semester to get through the basics).
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Actually there is plenty...
Indeed. Lenses work.
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