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Old 10th June 2003, 10:34 PM   #11
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culture and america, rodd at the moment i listen to edgar meyer. absolute fantastic performance. he plays bottesini.
 
Old 10th June 2003, 10:40 PM   #12
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I am about to give up on satire. If a picture of a drooling pig statue and the phrase "Vienna of the South" was taken seriously by anyone else (although I can't image who). IT WAS A JOKE!!! I can assure you that we do not refer to Dallas as the Vienna of the South.........

I don't remember capitalism being an American invention and I am real sure socialism wasn't. I won't even dignify the claim the nothing cultural came from to United States as it must have been humor on your part. A lot of our culture was imported be people fleeing Europe, Russia and any other number of culturally and socially enlightened countries....... I just don't understand how that could happen though. I'll bet I have as many ethnic minorities within a two mile radius of where I live than the whole country of Belgium. Moslem women walk down the street alone in my neighborhood without fear as I can tell since I often see them. I have friends that fled Vietnam, Cambodia, and even England. I ate in my favorite restaurant owned by a couple that are Dutch and English. The women who rang up my purchase at the grocery store is Albanian. The Optometrist store that fixed my glasses is run be a Russian couple. I have heard Hebrew, Chinese, and Spanish being spoken at my doctors office waiting room. I worked for a company owned by the French and would go back given the opportunity. I am not complaining about this because I think it is great. My Grandparents on my fathers side were German and I'll bet I have read as much Hesse, Mann, and Nabakov as any of your European acquaintances. I just don't understand how this could happen in a country so dominated by cultural imperialism. Can someone explain it to me?

The US is far from perfect and we spend as much time in self analysis and criticism of our own culture as any country. We have the right to, as we live here. When is the last time you saw me criticizing Belgium? This constant anti-Americanism would be annoying if it actually came from anybody who knew enough about the US to have any credibility. I guess the American culture of humor hasn't made it to Europe where it could definitely do some good, in what appears to be a very humor deprived region of the world.
 
Old 10th June 2003, 10:41 PM   #13
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HaHaHa, that’s good guys. But really, tell us, what does the average European really think of the US?
This is not your average European responding....my response is quite clearly: nothing good ever came from America.

In other words Americans: take your platitudes home where they belong, we want to be able to develop our own culture, yours is so low class it's not even worthy of the nomen "culture".

Anything America or it's "culture" has ever done is degrade whatever Europe had.
That so called American Culture has no, I repeat no value at all.

The only thing they want you to do is to consume...ad infinitum.

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Old 10th June 2003, 10:46 PM   #14
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I am about to give up on satire. If a picture of a drooling pig statue and the phrase "Vienna of the South" was taken seriously by anyone else (although I can't image who). IT WAS A JOKE!!! I can assure you that we do not refer to Dallas as the Vienna of the South.........

sorry fred, i never was in dallas. and in the momentary climate i prefer to avoid going into usa... as far as i know texas is a big pile dry soil/dust.
 
Old 10th June 2003, 10:54 PM   #15
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Well, I have to admit that I criticized Belgium. Frites with mayonnaise... (shudder) And they don't make wine there, which elevates Texas to a higher plane.

edit: wups, got left behind in the thread move...
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Old 10th June 2003, 10:56 PM   #16
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I have friends that fled Vietnam, Cambodia, and even England. I ate in my favorite restaurant owned by a couple that are Dutch and English. The women who rang up my purchase at the grocery store is Albanian. The Optometrist store that fixed my glasses is run be a Russian couple. I have heard Hebrew, Chinese, and Spanish being spoken at my doctors office waiting room. I worked for a company owned by the French and would go back given the opportunity. I am not complaining about this because I think it is great. My Grandparents on my fathers side were German and I'll bet I have read as much Hesse, Mann, and Nabakov as any of your European
this is an example of the bright side of us-amerika, and i envy it. Should i say i envy you?

no:

this a example of the dark side:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ml?nav=hptoc_w

another one is most americans seems to take no notice of stuff like that.

Donīt take this critic on usa as the statement "its better here". no. i donīt say it is better in germany. but iīm something like dissapointed because it breaks my dream of amerika.
 
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The day anything "cultural" may come out of the US it'll probably be from the black community...

Jazz music?
 
Old 10th June 2003, 11:02 PM   #18
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And they don't make wine there, which elevates Texas to a higher plane.
did i tell you they make really fine wine in argentina? i bet better than possible in texas.
 
Old 10th June 2003, 11:06 PM   #19
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Well, we just had a '77 Weinert Malbec "Estrela" from Mendoza that was extraordinary. Shared it with my favorite chef and sommelier in France. It happened to be the birth year for the chef's wife, which gave me the side benefit of getting well-kissed. I do love France!

Hey, I hear they make wine in Germany. Is that true?
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Old 10th June 2003, 11:08 PM   #20
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SY, ok, enough. i envy you.
 

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