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Old 20th February 2010, 11:13 PM   #21
anatech is offline anatech  Canada
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Hi Morten,
As SY says, there is no way for a sponsored forum moderator to access what regular moderators can. They can only affect their own area, everyone has been very careful about that. We'll give 'em a "nouggy" (how do you spell that anyway??) if they even try. Knuckle rubbed on top of head is what I'm referring to, just in case there is a translation that means something entirely different!

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Old 20th February 2010, 11:21 PM   #22
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I can't understand why you dislike banning that much, after all is part of your work here, a voluntary work. I can understand that you don't like banning valuable members, but you can't do nothing about it: it's their own suicide.

As for me I enjoy the gossip, reading Borat saying I'm too young too die and next moment... bang bang you're dead. .

Sometimes this forum takes me back to elementary school days; memories of reckless behaviors, punishments and some written knowledge.
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Old 20th February 2010, 11:48 PM   #23
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Set aside the intense dislike about a very few clueless and/or arrogant and/or straight stupid moderators, the main reason for my greatly reduced contribution is the amount of technical bull chips that are perpetrated here. Driven more and more by vested interests, the quantity and smell of the said chips increased significantly over the years, to the level where I saw only two options: spend time cleaning, or be guilty by association.

I don't have that time, while being associated with a forum (AKA "the cable guys forum") was, to me, not allowed by some elementary mental hygiene principles.

Otherwise, as far as I can tell, you guys are doing just fine.
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Old 20th February 2010, 11:52 PM   #24
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First, I would like to compliment the moderators and thank them for their efforts with what seems to me to be a pretty unruly crowd at times. I like reading and posting here and I wouldn't seek to damage anything. I think some of the policies being implemented are overcautious, however.

I don't like the way that the forum censors my use of English. If people don't like the way I express myself then they need to grow thicker skins. God alone knows I'm tolerant enough of other people's near-unintelligible spelling, grammar and punctuation. No names - no pack-drill. wahab.

Which brings me neatly onto the subjects of religion and politics. What's holy about these? No, really, have you heard the one about the priest and the politician? Well, unfortunately I can't tell you it.

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Old 20th February 2010, 11:52 PM   #25
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This is a funny thread.

Chris you don’t answer my PM so maybe I should post it here instead?

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Old 21st February 2010, 12:32 AM   #26
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Old 21st February 2010, 12:51 AM   #27
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Well, I think this is a fine place, and Im proud to be a member

I cant understand why anyone would want to hurt us, or make it hard on us

I can tell you, at times this mod job can be exstremely demanding, and difficult

So, why not try and make it easier instead
And we might get more time to focus on more positive things
Maybe even get some spare time to do a bit of DIY


Maybe consider that some members have been around fore a very long time
Maybe some just get bored over time
To stay on top forever is not very realistic
Maybe some find it hard to realise that everything changes over time

People remains the same, its the surroundings that change
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Old 21st February 2010, 03:13 AM   #28
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Hi stinius,
I did reply, at length. However, I just got back to my 'puter just now. I will check my messages. Did you send to my personal email, or through the messaging system? My reply came straight to you via normal email. I dislike using the forum email system.

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I can't understand why you dislike banning that much, after all is part of your work here, a voluntary work. I can understand that you don't like banning valuable members, but you can't do nothing about it: it's their own suicide.
That's an excellent point. I think it's more a viewpoint held over from how I view life. As I said, these are personal comments, the only time I feel satisfied if someone is banned is when that person has been those arrogant members who put everyone else down. That's karma to my way of thinking.

I spent my life so far trying to help people when they needed it. I often come from a different angle where the basic thought is to find out what is bothering someone and trying to find something that works for them. If people are willing to talk things through, most issues aren't that big a deal. So I have a sense of loss if a member decides to close all options behind them in order to voice their displeasure. I try to see where they are coming from before taking action.

This worked very well for me in excess of 30 years, but not nearly so well on forums. It seems the detachment from not seeing the other person as a person brings out the worst in some people. It's difficult for me to understand why the drama.

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Sometimes this forum takes me back to elementary school days; memories of reckless behaviors, punishments and some written knowledge.
So true!

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Set aside the intense dislike about a very few clueless and/or arrogant and/or straight stupid moderators
That's bound to happen. Different personalities - many of them! I can't offer any great ways to get around this beyond avoiding each other, as many as there are. The strength of a highly varied moderation team is that there should be at least one or more moderators you can get along with. No one ever said you have to get along with everyone, just like in real life.

Ovidiu, you are one of those members who do contribute a great deal to life around here. Your help in hosting files and allowing members to access your site is appreciated. Same thing with assisting people and projects. I haven't been around for a while, so I don't know how involved you are these days.

So, I'd like to thank you for all your past help to the members here. I hope you see fit to continue in the future. Otherwise the few that cause trouble in your life succeed in reducing the enjoyment for both you and the people you normally help.

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I don't have that time, while being associated with a forum (AKA "the cable guys forum") was, to me, not allowed by some elementary mental hygiene principles.
I'm not sure what you are saying here, I have been out of touch as I mentioned. You spend your time where you figure it's more valuable. That's simply how the average person thinks. For instance, while I'm still very much dealing with issues in my life, this place does get 99% of my time that I can spare. So, same as you but maybe a different place.

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Well, I think this is a fine place, and Im proud to be a member
I agree with that. Most people are very decent to deal with and will enhance everyone's life. But for a moderator, it only takes a couple to spoil the day due to the extra work they can cause.

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I can tell you, at times this mod job can be exstremely demanding, and difficult
Yes. Also rewarding when things are moving smoothly for the people here.

You are on the right track so far as I can see. Instead of the dramas unfolding, getting down to some DIY is the entire reason most of us are here to begin with.

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Old 21st February 2010, 03:26 AM   #29
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We'll give 'em a "nouggy" (how do you spell that anyway??) if they even try.
I think it's "noogie"

As a moderator on another big audio-related forum, I know how thankless a job it can be. This place has one of the best mod staffs I've seen...part of why I'm posting here more now
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Old 21st February 2010, 08:03 AM   #30
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magura: They only have limited moderating privileges in their own forums.
I know, but I find it very unfortunate, that the information can't be trusted, no matter if it's from the main forum, or a vendor forum.
If you accept that a vendor edits out the negative feedback and critical questions, it should also be pointed out in a way, that it is a commercial part of the forum, edited by the vendor.
That would have to be pointed out in every single post, as many finds info here, through Google and the like, and may miss that part otherwise.

Either that, or keep the standard, and let the members interact freely, so they can help each other decide what's good and bad.

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