Who are you? - Page 5

wakibaki · 11th February 2010, 08:05 PM

It's not Carlos Castaneda, or Carl Gustav Jung (although I think there's something about archetypes in there) or Gurdjieff or Ouspensky. Robert Pirsig? It's not Fritz Perls. Not Tim Leary or RD Laing or Richard Alpert or even Ken Kesey. It's not Ayn Rand.

It's true that the boundaries between individuals are a bit ill defined and arbitrary, but that is true of all classes of things. The universe and we are one thing; its division into tables, chairs, molecules, atoms, and individuals is an artifice of language, but without which there is unfortunately no understanding, only unfocussed perception. However I suspect that's not what you're talking about.

You're talking about John Donne.

'No man is an island, Entire of itself. Each is a piece of the continent, A part of the main.'

It's a good thought, if perhaps not quite as tidily posed, and only 4 centuries late.

w

PeteMcK · 11th February 2010, 11:43 PM

the most eloquent observation on this problem is from Rene Magritte

7n7is · 10:38 PM

Quote:

What then transcends energy/mass which composes absolute reality?

ultimate reality?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/...rentz-1970.PDF

Glowbug · 13th February 2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteMcK

the most eloquent observation on this problem is from Rene Magritte

I've got a picture in the office of Magritte's "The Son of Man" (the apple in front of the guy's face)...with a speaker cone instead of an apple

I should scan it, it'd make a good avatar here...

thadman · 13th February 2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 7n7is

ultimate reality?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/...rentz-1970.PDF

An excellent read, thanks!

7n7is · 13th February 2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thadman

An excellent read, thanks!

See this, too. Sciencemadness Discussion Board - Powered by XMB 1.9.11

Gyuri · 13th February 2010, 06:14 PM

I am an *******.

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wakibaki Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Blog Entries: 2	It's not Carlos Castaneda, or Carl Gustav Jung (although I think there's something about archetypes in there) or Gurdjieff or Ouspensky. Robert Pirsig? It's not Fritz Perls. Not Tim Leary or RD Laing or Richard Alpert or even Ken Kesey. It's not Ayn Rand. It's true that the boundaries between individuals are a bit ill defined and arbitrary, but that is true of all classes of things. The universe and we are one thing; its division into tables, chairs, molecules, atoms, and individuals is an artifice of language, but without which there is unfortunately no understanding, only unfocussed perception. However I suspect that's not what you're talking about. You're talking about John Donne. 'No man is an island, Entire of itself. Each is a piece of the continent, A part of the main.' It's a good thought, if perhaps not quite as tidily posed, and only 4 centuries late. w

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