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Old 20th January 2011, 09:46 PM   #8991
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You have to remember that to us Brits, American teeth all look like false ones - they are too regular, straight and peroxide white. Why pay money to look like you wear false teeth? Actually, things are changing over here. It is a mystery to me why early teenagers, at their most self-conscious age, are willing to spend a couple of years with metal wire all round their teeth. Still, it keeps dentists in their flashy cars and big houses.
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Old 20th January 2011, 09:48 PM   #8992
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English Teeth, English Teeth!
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A part of British heritage
Aye, each and every one.
English Teeth, Happy Teeth!
Always having fun
Clamping down on bits of fish
And sausages half done.
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Three Cheers for the Brown, Grey and Black.
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Old 20th January 2011, 09:55 PM   #8993
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Old 20th January 2011, 10:10 PM   #8994
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The issue raised by thune is a valid one (if I can drag us back to the topic), and I think I made a similar point some time ago. I think we can agree that the device does not work in the way that is claimed, because the claims are pure mumbo-jumbo. SY's tests show that in the audio range it appears to do nothing at all. That doesn't quite prove that it does nothing, although it comes close. If it keeps RF out of a system then it could improve sound, yet have no effect in the audio region. I am still not convinced; it would help if the sellers came up with a better explanation.
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Old 20th January 2011, 10:35 PM   #8995
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The issue raised by thune is a valid one (if I can drag us back to the topic)...
Technically the topic is the Blowtorch preamplifier, which to my knowledge didn't use Bybee putrifiers.

Perhaps it's time to retire this thread?

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Old 20th January 2011, 10:50 PM   #8996
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What SY described there was bias, not prejudice. If the thing can be overcome with evidence, its not prejudice. We have for example 'racial prejudice' aka 'racism' - there's no evidence to be overcome there. Ditto 'sexual prejudice' aka 'sexism'.
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Old 20th January 2011, 11:37 PM   #8997
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The issue raised by thune is a valid one (if I can drag us back to the topic), and I think I made a similar point some time ago. I think we can agree that the device does not work in the way that is claimed, because the claims are pure mumbo-jumbo. SY's tests show that in the audio range it appears to do nothing at all. That doesn't quite prove that it does nothing, although it comes close. If it keeps RF out of a system then it could improve sound, yet have no effect in the audio region. I am still not convinced; it would help if the sellers came up with a better explanation.
Being convinced by reading whatever is one thing. Being convinced by hearing the results with one's own ears is a different thing. Since conventional measurements aren't telling how a piece of gear sounds to the ear, at least not in full, they are irrelevant here.
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Old 20th January 2011, 11:59 PM   #8998
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What SY described there was bias, not prejudice. If the thing can be overcome with evidence, its not prejudice. We have for example 'racial prejudice' aka 'racism' - there's no evidence to be overcome there. Ditto 'sexual prejudice' aka 'sexism'.
Nope.

"a. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
b. A preconceived preference or idea."

It's a word that has been badly abused.
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Nope.
Wrong.

From dictionary.com:

  1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
  2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
  3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.


Note here all three possibilities are either favourable or unfavourable and therefore emotionally coloured. Emotion-based judgements cannot be overcome with evidence as they were necessarily formed without evidence.

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It's a word that has been badly abused.
And if claiming the wrong meaning for it counts as 'bad abuse', that's certainly continuing here.
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I find this hard to believe, every food in the UK is done, like the ex-parrot.
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