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Old 6th August 2010, 05:56 PM   #5521
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A local engineer looped "Tusk" back on itself at a perfect point and made a 90min. version. He did the same thing with "Stairway to Heaven" that worked even better. That was back when even commercial FM stations had some fun.
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Yeah, had some great FM stations back in the 70's and 80's.

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Old 6th August 2010, 06:31 PM   #5522
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Well, I heard the original mix-downs, between analog and digital. I still feel that the digital final mix had the inherent problem that digital had at the time, (at least) and this added a negative factor that people were not accustomed to at the time, for sure, and I predicted that this would effect the success of the record.
While the musical compositions were perhaps not to the standard of 'Rumors' they were pretty good, and pure inertia should have provided more sales.
Of course, that is my personal and professional opinion made at that time when I, like Ed Simon today, was really 'cooking' in the pro audio business.
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Old 6th August 2010, 06:39 PM   #5523
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I also predicted the same problem with Rickie Lee Jones, when her albums were digitally recorded, in future albums.
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Old 6th August 2010, 06:44 PM   #5524
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Here is the real 144 ...

Click the image to open in full size.

It ran at 9.5 cm/s, used only type II cassettes, and had Dolby B.

The later 244 has dbx II.

I used one of these in my teenage years.

Shortly after that Tascam released a reel-to-reel portastudio.
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Old 6th August 2010, 07:21 PM   #5525
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How is that related to dither?
It is related to the "nice" looking FFT of 4-bit A/D of sine with dither. It looks "nice" only for the reason of large memory + averaging.

SNR = 6.02N + 1.76dB + 10log(M/2)

N ... number of bits
M ... number of samples in the FFT record
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Old 6th August 2010, 08:10 PM   #5526
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The best examples of 30 ips recording that I had something to do with came from Wilson Audio Recordings. 'S'Wonderful Jazz' with the Eddie Graham Trio, and later releases that came from the 30 ips master recorder that I made for Dave Wilson.
Ultimately, the recorder was leased to Sheffield Records to make a recording of the Moscow Philharmonic Orchestra, in the '80's in Moscow, itself. This came out pretty well.
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Old 6th August 2010, 08:53 PM   #5527
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It is related to the "nice" looking FFT
You still don't get it?

We don't care about the FFT, OK.

Condemnation without examination is prejudice.
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Old 6th August 2010, 09:42 PM   #5528
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I think you're right. It's not as if the mass consumer market is terribly discriminating when it comes to recording quality.

Look at Nebraska, one of Bruce Springsteen's best selling albums containing perhaps his most popular song, Born in the USA.

It was recorded on a Tascam PortaStudio (a "prosumer" four track, and at the time, cassette-based recorder) using a pair of Shure SM-57 mics.

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Looking at my copy of Nebraska right now. "Recorded in New Jersey by Mike Batlin on a Teac Tascam Series 144 4-track cassette recorder..."
Dark album, no Born in the USA on it.
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Old 6th August 2010, 09:53 PM   #5529
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........................Look at Nebraska, one of Bruce Springsteen's best selling albums containing perhaps his most popular song, Born in the USA................
No. Born in the USA came out later, and was on the "Born in the USA" Album.

allmusic ((( Born in the U.S.A. > Overview )))
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Old 6th August 2010, 10:04 PM   #5530
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Looking at my copy of Nebraska right now. "Recorded in New Jersey by Mike Batlin on a Teac Tascam Series 144 4-track cassette recorder..."
Dark album, no Born in the USA on it.
You're right. My bad.

Thanks for the correction.

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