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Old 20th February 2013, 04:02 AM   #35521
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Reading all this I am wondering - how many of you, guys, are friends with creative people? You know - painters, composers, fashion designers, actors ..
I have lots of such and I IS ONE lol
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Live with an artist, 2. Friends with several artists. Paints and sculptures. Musicians, 2. Collect art, myself. It balances me. -RNM
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Old 20th February 2013, 05:11 AM   #35524
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Oh and my accountant. Wait, I wasn't supposed to mention that.
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Says a lot for the accounting profession that 'creative accountant' isn't exactly an endorsement Or then again, maybe it is - depending on whether you're a customer, an employee or a shareholder...
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Old 20th February 2013, 08:43 AM   #35526
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Would my parents, wife, daughter, and former profession count?

There's an interesting tacit implication there- that if one is familiar with and appreciative of the arts, one can be perfectly happy being irrational and/or accepting of intellectual dishonesty. Even CP Snow would balk at that one.

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I hate, hate, hate creative people, I so much hate them, it can't be properly expressed without expletives. Wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
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Old 20th February 2013, 09:04 AM   #35528
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There's an interesting tacit implication there- that if one is familiar with and appreciative of the arts, one can be perfectly happy being irrational and/or accepting of intellectual dishonesty. Even CP Snow would balk at that one.
One of the most irritating attitudes of an ex-friend, an emeritus professor of music, was that I, because of being as engineer by profession, couldn't really be any good at the arts. This individual is quite neurotic, and irrational as it suits his needs, his ex-wife recently remarking as well that he was "the most self-centered person in the world".

But there is a persistent, pernicious, and mostly-nonsensical idea that artistic "genius" must entail neurosis or worse, sometimes extending to insistence that we give special accommodation to their erratic and even destructive behavior. Sorry, not going to cut it.

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FWIW, the single best guitarist I've ever played with was a Stanford PhD physicist, specializing in nonlinear optics. Go figure.
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Old 20th February 2013, 09:25 AM   #35530
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Reading all this I am wondering - how many of you, guys, are friends with creative people? You know - painters, composers, fashion designers, actors ..
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry! The most creative people I have known have been scientists and engineers; they understand and enjoy both the arts and the sciences. Their day job may be creating software or things, but in the evening they make music or write fiction. I know one engineer who at one time played timpani in a youth orchestra. I once knew another one who wrote (saleable) sci-fi. I knew a physicist who ran a small art gallery.

By contrast, much modern 'art' from 'creative' people is just mindless garbage. It involves no creative skills at all. In many cases the artist can't even make his own item and has to employ skilled craftsmen to make it. And, of course, most of them have no interest in or knowledge of science. Their ignorance is profound. They only survive because of state subsidies and fashionable nonsense pursued by rich people trying to impress other rich people.

Sorry, I had to get that off my chest!

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