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Old 10th February 2013, 07:11 PM   #34731
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That is a fairly horrendous response curve to say the least. Thanks for posting that, tells me my ears are still working, no top end and lumpy everywhere else.
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Old 10th February 2013, 07:13 PM   #34732
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There was a AES paper from Harmon with measurements of different headphones and a blind test of the different headphones. Doing the blind test was quite the challenge. I don't know if its available other than behind the paywall at AES. They were cagey about which headphone was which but reading between the lines there were Audeeze and Beats Studio's in the mix.

I have measured many headphones including all of the Monster headphones of course. The measurements tell little about their sound beyond simple gauges of overall balance, just like speakers. Further no two different systems will give the same measurements, another AES paper from years ago.
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Old 10th February 2013, 07:24 PM   #34733
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There was a AES paper from Harmon with measurements of different headphones and a blind test of the different headphones. Doing the blind test was quite the challenge. I don't know if its available other than behind the paywall at AES. They were cagey about which headphone was which but reading between the lines there were Audeeze and Beats Studio's in the mix.
Sure they were Audez'e and not HiFiMAN, another very popular ortho?

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Old 10th February 2013, 07:30 PM   #34734
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Which system was that measured with? I don't see the characteristic resonances at 12 KHz or so of a 711 coupler.

Attached is a typical measurement using a GRAS artificial ear of an early Beats Pro. Most of the Beats headphones have the characteristic depressed midrange. That is part of their signature. The boosted bass as well, essential for the hip-hop scene.

There are valid arguments for the balance and different target curves but they are meaningless one way or the other when compared to the sales figures for successful headphones. The curve shown sells. Every serious audiophile in the world could buy a specific headphone and that would not keep the line running for a week.
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Sure they were Audez'e and not HiFiMAN, another very popular ortho?

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In the live presentation there were several clues that were unmistakable, including price and comfort (weight).
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Old 10th February 2013, 07:33 PM   #34736
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In the live presentation there were several clues that were unmistakable, including price and comfort (weight).
Gotcha. Thanks, Demian.

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Old 10th February 2013, 07:45 PM   #34737
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Old 10th February 2013, 07:49 PM   #34738
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Old 10th February 2013, 08:14 PM   #34739
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The problem I have with the concept of making these headphones work for Hip Hop music is you are taking a music mix that is already heavy in the bass, lacking in mids and nothing but synthetic highs from a keyboard and doing the same in the headphones own curve here. Making a bad mix even worse. So you are saying that any other music will sound like hell on them, this I can agree on after listening to multiple different models. The industrial design is nice but the sound quality isn't any better than a $5 computer loudspeaker really.
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Old 10th February 2013, 08:27 PM   #34740
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Yeah, but people LOVE bass. Bass is what makes it good.

I blame the discotheques.
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