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Old 10th February 2013, 02:26 AM   #34641
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SY: Cal did subjective testing right?
No, just some casual listening, same as I did. He thought he might have heard a small reduction in treble, but never confirmed it.
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Old 10th February 2013, 02:32 AM   #34642
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loving the veiled threat btw, is that the last resort? stylish... you do understand the term 'Bop' right?
Nah, no threats intended, more a note that if I can find the time it might be interesting to get together with Jeremy and compare notes of what we have been doing behind the scenes....I would likely bring beer or his choice of poison to Woody Point and enjoy some geek quality time and do some 'bopping' ....why not ?.

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Old 10th February 2013, 02:39 AM   #34643
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Another example of JC-3 position in marketplace:
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Old 10th February 2013, 02:43 AM   #34644
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haha Dan, OK mate, lets save this discussion for that day too easy to be off base in these situations online with no facial cues; especially having never met.

I cant explain everything I observe in my system either, but if its positive I try not to offer technical explanations and accept that its probably best in those situations to sit back and enjoy the ride. I dont have the equipment to objectively test subjective phenomena at the low levels of error my system is capable of anyway.

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Old 10th February 2013, 02:46 AM   #34645
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Frank, the only closed minds here are the ones not willing/too embarrassed to change their position in the face of obvious and exhaustive proof its a scam (even before cracking one open). Subjective response is perfectly valid as long as it is accepted as such. The problems start when 'technical' justifications are made, but claimed to be beyond current testing methodologies and equipment, while being audible.
Too far away from any of the other mob ... just west of Sydney ...

I agree, the BS content in their propaganda does all of these devices and tweaks no favours, but I guess many people can only rest easy with a purchase if there is an explanation, no matter how nonsensical, for why it may do good. I'm certainly personally "victim" of finding that doing seemingly irrelevant things makes a difference, and I have scratched my head to the point of bleeding, so to speak, trying to work out what's going on. Getting there, but the answers most certainly "don't come easy".

And part of the battle is that it will quite a bit of organisational effort to enable something like Diffmaker to come up with significant evidence ... aiming to do something like that when I procure an infamous Round Tuit ...

I'm familiar with the Stones Studio products, at WES; solid, ordinary speaker engineering, I would treat his opinion seriously ...

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Well you two down a pint then for me and then Qusp bop him on the head please.
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Old 10th February 2013, 02:51 AM   #34647
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Another example of JC-3 position in marketplace:
Sorry, but that doesn't determine any position in the marketplace. Let's see the JC-3's sales figures relative to comparable products. That will show the JC-3's position in the marketplace.

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Where would you get that curious (and totally incorrect) idea?
http://www.tdk.co.jp/tefe02/e9b12_rh.pdf
Ok the data sheet graphs show measurements from 1Mhz and up. I have seen other graphs going lower in frequency, and the impedence close to nil at lower frequencies.

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Old 10th February 2013, 02:58 AM   #34649
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Frank, agreed. I guess I just struggle with the idea of second/third/forth/fifth party DIYers searching for/discovering the real reason for an effect the manufacturer of an expensive product isnt aware of... a reason that is not the fantastic reason put forth by that manufacturer. that manufacturer has made obvious effort to make it look special (laser welding gold leads to a cheap resistor for an upgrade?) and makes the typical hyper-technological super secret claims, with language designed to baffle.

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Old 10th February 2013, 03:00 AM   #34650
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Well you two down a pint then for me and then Qusp bop him on the head please.
sshhhh: secretly thats the plan

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