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Old 27th January 2013, 09:31 PM   #33731
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Sure, Lemo is great! Kind of expensive.
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Old 27th January 2013, 09:47 PM   #33732
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Oh, please !!!
Look at the image.
Belden is a top professional cable manufacturer and know how to build cables for audio: the drain is OUTSIDE the foil, and the foil is not spiraled; They provide specs, just look at them.
The drain outside the foil will be the low impedance connection for shield currents and and will cause the current centroid to become assymetrical. Sort of defies the purpose of a shielded cable.
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Old 27th January 2013, 09:55 PM   #33733
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The drain outside the foil will be the low impedance connection for shield currents and and will cause the current centroid to become assymetrical. Sort of defies the purpose of a shielded cable.
Again, the foil is very thick and low-z and in contact with the drain all the way. The drain is only here to help welding, strait, while the two wires are twisted. Please, get a sample and measure before to give false inputs. Really no need to argue endless, are-you working for a challenger manufacturer ?
The negative impact of this is the cable is a little rigid: nice for fixed wiring, not nice as a microphone cable.
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Old 27th January 2013, 10:01 PM   #33734
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The drain outside the foil will be the low impedance connection for shield currents and and will cause the current centroid to become assymetrical. Sort of defies the purpose of a shielded cable.
Well it's good to know that someone made the apparent effort to read the article I linked without getting rude about defending their personal choice. It's too much of a bother to have a technical discussion in this forum without dealing with such rudeness.
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Old 27th January 2013, 10:10 PM   #33735
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Pooge, thanks, but I did not link to your article. It is rather common knowledge for those who have read and understood the interesting and informative contributions of JNeutron on this site.The insights he communicated were applicable to this situation so I shamelessly passed them on without mentioning their source.

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Old 27th January 2013, 10:18 PM   #33736
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Well it's good to know that someone made the apparent effort to read the article I linked without getting rude about defending their personal choice. It's too much of a bother to have a technical discussion in this forum without dealing with such rudeness.
Well, my recommendation was based on *real experience*, with kilometers of cables on very complex installations, like a 120 TV channels computer based recording and monitoring system in Qatar. With 120/120 audio matrix. You can imagine we made some measurements before to order the GOOD cables and had to sign very severe 'accordance' ?
I don' think I'm rude, just bored with the same old story: audiophile fantasies VS real world efficiency and quality. Like this recent story between high end cables handcrafted by virgins losing connection cause the lack of a stupid XLR latch !
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Old 27th January 2013, 10:19 PM   #33737
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Pooge, thanks, but I did not really read your linked article.
You should, if you haven't already. Anything by Whitlock regarding noise and interfacing components is well worth the time.
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Old 27th January 2013, 10:26 PM   #33738
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This one is good .http://www.jensen-transformers.com/a...%20seminar.pdf
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Old 27th January 2013, 10:29 PM   #33739
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You should, if you haven't already. Anything by Whitlock regarding noise and interfacing components is well worth the time.
On your recommendation I will.
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Old 27th January 2013, 10:34 PM   #33740
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On your recommendation I will.
Do it with the realization that it is not directed to an "audiophile fantasy", but includes real world experience and measurements by the likes of Whitlock, Muncy and Brown.
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