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Old 26th January 2013, 06:23 PM   #33661
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Just something to brighten your day. My daughter sent this to me and made me laugh.

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Old 26th January 2013, 07:17 PM   #33662
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On the subject of XLR connectors.
In ANY OTHER CONTEXT, the very idea of insisting on Neutrik or locking connectors would be laughed at here as absurd and extra costly.
Absolute nonsense.

I don't believe anyone here would have laughed at using a Neutrik part. Sure, they would laugh at some grossly overpriced XLR from the likes of Oyaide or Furutech, but not Neutrik. We're talking about a 75 cent part here, John. Sixty cents if you go with the spring retention version instead of the hard locking tab.

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Old 26th January 2013, 07:18 PM   #33663
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Just something to brighten your day. My daughter sent this to me and made me laugh.
Saw that some time back. Too damn cute!

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Old 26th January 2013, 07:18 PM   #33664
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Thank you K! Nice way to start the day.

What was the one about the guy who had a quiet dog and a noisy dog: Bach and Offenbach?
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Old 26th January 2013, 07:39 PM   #33665
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In ANY OTHER CONTEXT, the very idea of insisting on Neutrik or locking connectors would be laughed at here as absurd and extra costly.
Do-you understand so bad our positions ? Neutrik or XLR are good connectors, with a VERY good quality/price ratio. Nobody here, had never laughted with a use of a decent connector, radiator, trasfo, or good capacitances as long you don't have to pay X3 for the word 'audiophile' etc... When we ask questions about Blowtorch's case in plain machined aluminum, aluminum is not the concern, but 'plain, 'machined' and 'aircraft'. Anything expensive or over priced witch does not bring any value to the sound's quality but pure fashion.

Now, it is difficult to understand how you can correlate the 'only transparent cable' in plain silver you use in one of your preamp (or the only good 'resista') and your jokes and so little care about this bad connector story. Legend and reality.
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Old 26th January 2013, 08:06 PM   #33666
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Sadly, rational technical discussion is impossible. It leads to misinterpretation, like in case of XLR connectors, when we were in fact recommending Neutrik (good quality at reasonable cost). It is rather like political campaign than engineering technical discussion.
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Old 26th January 2013, 08:24 PM   #33667
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Now let's see, SY reports his boss has a problem with XLR connectors falling out of their sockets when horizontally mounted. The XLR connector does not have a latch.

So I decided to do a simple test. I used one of the forked contact female connectors and a male insert only. No outer shell.

The photographs show the weight of the small vise and the connector and then the weight just before the connector slipped out.

36.5 oz vise and connector weight - 27.3 oz at pull out = 9.2 oz of holding strength.

So even without any shell what kind of cable has that much straight pull?
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Old 26th January 2013, 08:35 PM   #33668
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In defense of what happens to products one designs over which one either loses or never has control at the outset: so much can go wrong, and it may not be strictly cost issues. Among other things, parts availability and schedule adherence is also crucial. And with a lot of manufacturing having temporarily moved away from where scrutiny is fairly easy, and with attendant language problems, things are even more problem-prone.

This situation leads some to start their own companies. In many cases this leads to near-nervous-breakdowns on the part of the founders, unless they are exceptionally fortunate to either keep the operation small enough to manage personally, or are able to acquire outstanding help.

Most businesses go broke, too.
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Old 26th January 2013, 08:37 PM   #33669
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Sadly, rational technical discussion is impossible. It leads to misinterpretation, like in case of XLR connectors, when we were in fact recommending Neutrik (good quality at reasonable cost).
Yeah, but John was trying to say that IN ANY OTHER CASE, we'd pooh-pooh the Neutrik as being overly expensive. Which as I said previously is absolute nonsense. Just another straw man.

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Old 26th January 2013, 08:40 PM   #33670
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Yes, PMA, there are language differences that separate us. You seem to be 'petty and rude' to me, not giving me any 'benefit of doubt' when I try to explain my position.
The Blowtorch uses Neutrik, the JC-series uses Neutrik, I have hundreds of Neutrek XLR connectors here in my apartment. So what? The Taiwanese have their own stocks of XLR connectors, and a ten cent difference might make them use one over another. I can't do much but complain, and I copied SY's complaint here and E-mailed it to Richard at Parasound. He gave me a flat NO! I can do no more but listen to heaps of abuse from different parties, who don't do audio at this level, for a living.
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