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Old 9th March 2012, 06:06 PM   #21261
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Bcarso, I was once a consultant for HK also. When was your tenure?
When we shut down the family business in 1989, a recruiter got me in to Harman in Northridge for an interview. Then another interview. Finally they said Well the senior design engineer position evaporated, but now we really need somebody to manage the techs and solve some problems. I started on a Tuesday in Feb. 1990 (Monday having been President's Day iirc). On that Friday Andy Hefley came in to say goodbye to the techs, as his program had been cancelled and he laid off (rather chilling way to start!). Initially I didn't have a desk or a computer, just a bench, and I got the three techs from hell.


By the time I decided I wanted to be a consultant (everyone told me I was nuts) my title was Principal Engineer for what had become Harman-Motive. I resigned and was told whatever you may think you will NOT get any work from Harman-Motive --- you're not getting away with this! But I had a contract with Corporate R&D, so I knew I'd have some work. Last day as an employee was May 20, 1994. Then Harman Consumer discovered I was available and hired me as a consultant. In the early days of that, a relatively new division, Harman Interactive Group, became a customer of the consumer group. After doing some early computer-centric demo systems, I proposed to Mike Watts of HIG that we might do better going direct. I also gave myself a big raise at that point

I worked pretty steadily through many ups and downs of the various incarnations of computer-centric audio divisions, essentially doing all of the "clean-sheet-of-paper" designs for the electronics of the powered speakers. I was shown the door abruptly in December of 2004 and haven't been back since.

At a recent reunion of mostly-laid-off Harman employees, an HR person said there was a phrase in currency now: "Doing a Brad Wood", a practice strongly frowned upon
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Old 9th March 2012, 06:44 PM   #21262
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Near perpetual motion, KBK? Keep up the good work, these people are not ready yet, but when it can be proven with a 'double blind measurement' they will be forced to believe. P.S, you should not mention new research here, it gets put where 'cold fusion' gets placed, and that is not good for either you or me.
Once this was found to be the case, It had to be analyzed. The data was not imagined... so the source of this had to be found.

Turns out the explanation is dead simple and violates... nothing. Took me all of a few minutes to figure it out.

This, 'implementation', it does what I expected it to do - and it does it well. No white paper required, just the real world example of how the given battery life is extended in a notable way. The battery life extension provides the proof all on it's own, and the answer is both mundane and obvious, once you hear it.
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Old 9th March 2012, 07:02 PM   #21263
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Although this is meant as cautionary, with the weight of all evidence confirming Bohr and uncertainty, we're still in very early days in physics. We're currently back to needing a cosmological constant and still have zero nada! theory that includes entropy - pretty much still shooting in the dark compared to our day-to-day engineering world.
Bohr? This would be the Bohr whose ideas about the atom were a useful stepping stone to a proper quantum theory but are now only taught to schoolchildren?
Entropy? This is the entropy at the heart of thermodynamics and information theory, adequately explained by statistical mechanics?
Day to day engineering? Would that be the engineering firmly based on science which most engineers do, or the new age mumbo-jumbo which sometimes passes for engineering in the audio world?
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Old 9th March 2012, 07:10 PM   #21264
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Bohr? This would be the Bohr whose ideas about the atom were a useful stepping stone to a proper quantum theory but are now only taught to schoolchildren?
Entropy? This is the entropy at the heart of thermodynamics and information theory, adequately explained by statistical mechanics?
It was Einstein's conversations/letters with Bohr from which the famous quote arose. Entropy and the unidirectional flow of time are fundamental but are yet unexplained in any theory of physics.

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Old 9th March 2012, 07:14 PM   #21265
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Bohr? This would be the Bohr whose ideas about the atom were a useful stepping stone to a proper quantum theory but are now only taught to schoolchildren?
Entropy? This is the entropy at the heart of thermodynamics and information theory, adequately explained by statistical mechanics?
Day to day engineering? Would that be the engineering firmly based on science which most engineers do, or the new age mumbo-jumbo which sometimes passes for engineering in the audio world?

Adequate?

Are you....asking for adequate to substitute for fundamentals...in the face of discussions on precision?

Not only is the underwear on the outside of the pants in this case, they were put on the family dog and are no where near the given person.
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Old 9th March 2012, 07:22 PM   #21266
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One can go to the 'lessloss' black body radiator, and when they hear it,which can easily be done, they come to the conclusion that most people's ideas on cause and effect are literally on backward. the connection is not made.

according to how people think in engineering terms, there is no way that a nothing can affect a something. All the math says otherwise. All the thinking says otherwise.


Yet the blackbody radiator takes that... and just trashes it so hard that it is left crying and broken in the street. Linear and engineering understandings of cause and effect take a beating that leaves them thoroughly dead, irretrievably dead.


It thus becomes known in the person that the limits of their knowledge are of personal psychological stance and positioning, and has nothing to do with reality. It is the interpretation of reality, the mental position as tied to emotional reach/connection.... that is the core issue.
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Old 9th March 2012, 07:30 PM   #21267
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Entropy and the unidirectional flow of time are fundamental but are yet unexplained in any theory of physics.
Perhaps I misunderstood you. You appeared to be claiming that physics was somehow in a more primitive state than engineering.

Time is a mystery, and I don't accept that the usual story about entropy explains time at all. Macroscopic objects, including people and cats, do seem to travel in time in one direction only even though sub-atomic particles may not be similarly restricted. Some fundamental issues like this should not be misused by the mumbo-jumbo people to dismiss what we do know.
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Old 9th March 2012, 07:42 PM   #21268
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Perhaps I misunderstood you. You appeared to be claiming that physics was somehow in a more primitive state than engineering.

Time is a mystery, and I don't accept that the usual story about entropy explains time at all. Macroscopic objects, including people and cats, do seem to travel in time in one direction only even though sub-atomic particles may not be similarly restricted. Some fundamental issues like this should not be misused by the mumbo-jumbo people to dismiss what we do know.
I *do* claim that fundamental physics is still in a more primitive state than our current level of much engineering. Engineering doesn't keep finding new mysteries - it tends to solve problems and more on to the next problem.

Newton, Einstein and quantum mechanics are all completely time-reversable. They contain no internal direction of time and no entropy. The real world at least seems to, and we really don't have a clue why or how. Mysteries are wonderful and I embrace them.

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ps: I certainly agree that misuse is rampant.

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Old 9th March 2012, 07:47 PM   #21269
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This, 'implementation', it does what I expected it to do - and it does it well. No white paper required, just the real world example of how the given battery life is extended in a notable way. The battery life extension provides the proof all on it's own, and the answer is both mundane and obvious, once you hear it.
Like when I insist that my wife and daughter must put phone receivers on their bases instead of kipping them just laying around?
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Entropy? This is the entropy at the heart of thermodynamics and information theory, adequately explained by statistical mechanics?
Actually, it was never "explained", just some particular cases were observed and registered. Funny, but Dean Radin using statistics come to quite interesting results that can "explain" how thermodynamics is just a particular case that does not work always as desired. One conclusion from his work can be made that our mind influence result of random processes. Another conclusion can be made that our minds somehow predict the future, but we don't know how, and can't explain using current models based on sensory perception.
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