John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II - Page 1793 - diyAudio
Go Back   Home > Forums > Member Areas > The Lounge

The Lounge A place to talk about almost anything but politics and religion.

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 15th November 2011, 04:38 AM   #17921
FrankWW is offline FrankWW  Canada
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: n/a
Booze messes up my hearing and fine motor control.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 05:03 AM   #17922
diyAudio Member
 
john curl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: berkeley ca
When I worked at a hi end hi fi store back about 42 years ago, my boss and I discussed this, while doing a custom installation. He said that after a couple of drinks, everything seems to sound OK. We were installing a Mac C22 with a Marantz 16 amplifier, connected to K-horns with 16 ga zip cord. About 1 year later, after moving into this household, I was accidently 'dosed' with 'LDS' at a party in the Haight Ashbury in SF, and when I came home, I was really 'flying'.
The lady of the house, seeing my situation, kept me calm by playing classical music all night. The young lady I picked up at the party, went to bed (alone) in my bedroom, and I listened to music all night lying on the living room floor. In this case, I could NOT tell live from recorded that night. I could 'fill in' that well, but never again.

Last edited by john curl; 15th November 2011 at 05:15 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 06:23 AM   #17923
vuki is offline vuki  Croatia
diyAudio Member
 
vuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: zagreb, croatia
Quote:
Originally Posted by john curl View Post
Well it looks like the 'satisfied' have taken over the thread again. They take 'perfect' pictures with their $100 digital cameras and criticize the earlier efforts of Ansel Adams because his pictures were all black and white. Then they express satisfaction with their sound recordings as being virtually perfect, while the rest of us, with some of the most expensive digital recording equipment presently made, find flaws. Does anyone understand why this is so? '-)
It's because they are happy with their lives and the rest of us are frustrated mf's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 07:01 AM   #17924
diyAudio Member
 
tomtt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: kansas city mo, and on occasion, around the world ...
Blog Entries: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by john curl View Post

Well it looks like the 'satisfied' have taken over the thread again.

Does anyone understand why this is so?
as there are three sides to every story,

my first impulse is to blame 'marketing' .

reading through the posts, its obviously sy's fault .

the Truth is -

"we are bought and sold into sin"


`````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````


now if you just take those '901's',

turn 'em around,

add woofers, and tweeters,

and stack them up ...

Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 07:01 AM   #17925
Previously: Kuei Yang Wang
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
John,

Quote:
Originally Posted by john curl View Post
About 1 year later, after moving into this household, I was accidently 'dosed' with 'LDS' at a party in the Haight Ashbury in SF, and when I came home, I was really 'flying'.
Yeah. I remember when we used to head to the Tresor in Berlin at least two times a month (I'd have gone more myself, but I was DJ'ing and running clubs so not many nights available to raise the roof) in the early 90's, drop a few tabs of Acid at a caffee befors. Add the trancy techno music, the lights and strobes and you are flying higher than a kite and even higher than a SR-71 or Mig-35...

Quote:
Originally Posted by john curl View Post
The lady of the house, seeing my situation, kept me calm by playing classical music all night. The young lady I picked up at the party, went to bed (alone) in my bedroom, and I listened to music all night lying on the living room floor. In this case, I could NOT tell live from recorded that night. I could 'fill in' that well, but never again.
Great story about the music, but I bet the young lady was quite outraged... Hopping on the good foot and doing the bad thing can be quite something if you are zonked out on acid...

I must admit, I never tried to listen to high end system while high on something, I normally use the high end audio system and music to give my brain the incentive to dose me up with some serotonin, dopamine and other nice stuff our brains makes to get me high. I guess this does give "High End Audio" a totally new meaning, for some at least...

Turn on, tune in and drop out...

PS,

I do not recommend the use of recreational drugs of any kind, including nicotine, caffeine and alcohol to anyone. I do however believe the choice should be up to the individual, not to governments and criminal syndicates.

Some drugs other than the legal ones listed above are banned in many jurisdictions and being caught with them can carry heavy sentences. Many drugs on the illegal market are of very poor quality and often adulterated. They can be extremely dangerous to the point of killing you or giving you permanent disabilities.

Some are extremely addictive and can totally mess up your life, irrecoverably so (I had friends that got hooked)...

So if you value your freedom and health, don't do illegal drugs.

End of sermon.

Ciao T
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 07:05 AM   #17926
diyAudio Member
 
john curl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: berkeley ca
That's OK, it is my business to care about extra audio quality. If I were a chef, I would not eat the way I do. If I were a winemaker, I would not drink the cognac that I do. If I were an auto designer, I would not drive an old Porsche 944. My friends, even today drive Porsche Boxters, dual turbos, and Bentleys. But as I am an audio designer, I will only worry about what I specialize in, and give way to the finest quality and performance in other areas. What amazes me is that so many people are completely pleased with their audio systems. It reminds me of some kid who thinks his dad's ford pickup is the greatest ride in his conceptual reality. '-)
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 07:08 AM   #17927
diyAudio Member
 
john curl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: berkeley ca
We had 4 K-horns, two of mine and two of the lady of the house, and I was in the middle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 09:51 AM   #17928
Pano is offline Pano  United States
diyAudio Moderator
 
Pano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Milliways
Blog Entries: 4
My point was that while the old recordings are not technically perfect, they have a charm and a life many modern recordings lack.
Despite, or perhaps because of, all the hiss, buzz, wow, poor FR, overdriven mics, overdriven channels, etc in the old recordings, they have a life and humanity that seems lacking in modern "perfect" recordings.

Go to your next concert alone. Really alone - you as the only audience member. It will be perfect; no coughs, no talking, no sneezing, no fidgeting, no drunken yells by your fellow audience members, no beer spilled down your back. Perfect. And how much fun do you think it will be?

Is it perfection we seek, or an emotional connection to the music?
__________________
Take the Speaker Voltage Test!
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 09:56 AM   #17929
Bonsai is offline Bonsai  Taiwan
diyAudio Member
 
Bonsai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
I like the accidental dosage bit. LoL.

;-)
__________________
bonsai
Amplifier Design and Construction for MUSIC! http://hifisonix.com/
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2011, 10:57 AM   #17930
SY is offline SY  United States
diyAudio Moderator
 
SY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Chicagoland
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pano View Post
Go to your next concert alone. Really alone - you as the only audience member. It will be perfect; no coughs, no talking, no sneezing, no fidgeting, no drunken yells by your fellow audience members, no beer spilled down your back. Perfect. And how much fun do you think it will be?

Is it perfection we seek, or an emotional connection to the music?
I don't get the analogy (and that's happened to me a few times!). Why are the two mutually exclusive?

It's the job of the musicians to create the emotional connection, not the equipment. The very best shows I've ever seen had, frankly, lousy sound. I would have liked the sound to be better, but that wouldn't have made the emotional connection one whit better.
__________________
You might be screaming "No, no, no" and all they hear is "Who wants cake?" Let me tell you something: They all do. They all want cake.- Wilford Brimley
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 01:54 PM.


vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 1999-2014 diyAudio

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2