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Old 3rd March 2011, 01:23 AM   #10441
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Because they select an instrument to 'taste' and not some objective criterium. Just the same way you select your audio components.

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Indeed, I select components for my sound system to my personal taste.
I select components that please my preferences in sound system neither the preferences of someone else nor to satisfy any measuring instrument.
Is there anything wrong in that?
Do you really believe I should be deprived of the privilege that any teenager drummer has?

May I ask about how do you select components to your sound system?
I bag your pardon, but my last question addresses the core of the differences between us. Should you reply that question I'll be able to point that core.
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Old 3rd March 2011, 01:26 AM   #10442
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I await the details of your breakthrough contribution to experimental psychology.
You are welcome to sharpen your cynicism.
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Old 3rd March 2011, 01:35 AM   #10443
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I won't need to if you explain it to the rest of the world.
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Old 3rd March 2011, 01:52 AM   #10444
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I won't need to if you explain it to the rest of the world.
There is nothing I owe the rest of the world.
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Old 3rd March 2011, 01:58 AM   #10445
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OK, so basically, you're claiming that you have a method to overcome the placebo effect which doesn't involve the well-established methods of experimental psychology.

But it's a secret.
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Old 3rd March 2011, 03:01 AM   #10446
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It was mentioned that some trust their ears. I too, used to trust my ears until recently. After watching the McGurk effect, it appears a portion of our hearing is tied to our sight. In other words, what we see affects what we hear. Oddly enough, this effect happens even if when we are aware of it.

YouTube - Try The McGurk Effect! - Horizon: Is Seeing Believing? - BBC Two

Could this explain why some prefer sighted tests?
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Old 3rd March 2011, 03:18 AM   #10447
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Here's a somewhat more sophisticated example of the McGurk Effect:

YouTube - Crazy Indian Video... Buffalaxed!
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Old 3rd March 2011, 03:37 AM   #10448
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The brain tries to assemble a picture that makes sense
from all the senses, and this sort of thing is not limited
to sight.

One of my favorites is where the listener is presented with
a tone that is rising or falling in pitch. If you add a gated
burst of white noise, the listener will of course continue
to hear the rising or falling tone through the noise.

If you gate the tone out at the same time you gate the
noise in, the listener will still perceive a continuous rising
or falling tone, even though it isn't there.

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Old 3rd March 2011, 03:57 AM   #10449
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Yes, that's why you should always trust your ears, but not that lying brain.
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Old 3rd March 2011, 04:06 AM   #10450
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With all the skill of the musician, his familiarity with that instrument, and his innate ability to extract the best out of that instrument based upon how it "fits" him does the sound of the instruments itself matters?
This is question avoidance. I may as well go back to ignoring you. If you don't have enough common sense to make a comparison by minimizing variables, there is no further need to discuss this with you.
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