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Old 2nd March 2011, 06:51 PM   #10401
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Not the intent, just frustration. It is my OPINION that the effects of exotic passive components are highly overstated and yes using them makes you feel good even I do it sometimes (they can be very pretty).
Oh then we are almost in agreement. I think your OPINION that the effects of exotic passive components are highly overstated is actually a FACT!

We may differ on our opinions as to if a distortion component can be heard at -120db re full power level, but we both would agree it cannot when it is -200db.
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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:00 PM   #10402
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Was the effect of that ABX system itself tested?
What effect?

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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:10 PM   #10403
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I have found some VERY PRETTY passive components to sound LOUSY. Jan, have you listened to your 'resistors' yet?
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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:13 PM   #10404
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I mean why does CD sound is so great, then why do so many people seem unhappy with it.
Why do so many people seem happy with it?

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If CD is perfect, then why does live music sound so good to me with no fatique, where cd can't. Why don't SACD's played back on the same player affect me the same way?
Who knows? Certainly it's possible that there could be nothing more than a lot of psychology going on.

It would be interesting to see what your reaction would be if you didn't have the benefit of knowing whether you were listening to CD or SACD.

I mean, some people will go into anaphylactic shock if they just think they've been exposed to something they're allergic to.

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Well, I just trust my listening impressions for the most part. Peoples ears are different. Some are more sensitive to some sounds than others.
It's not clear just what they are sensitive to.

It's interesting that people only seem to be so sensitive when they can peek and not so sensitive when they can't.

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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:13 PM   #10405
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Whatever effect there may be. It should be tested whether the ABX system has any sonic effect on a sound system, prior to deciding about it as the ultimate judge. When different switches and interconnect cables have an impact on the sound of an audio system, an ABX system may also have such an impact and it may not. However it should be tested for whether it has any impact on the sound of the audio system, or not.
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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:17 PM   #10406
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Why do so many people seem happy with it?
Why so many people are happy with mp3?
Is the fact that so many people are happy with mp3 a proof that it's high quality audio?
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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:19 PM   #10407
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Whatever effect there may be. It should be tested whether the ABX system has any sonic effect on a sound system, prior to deciding about it as the ultimate judge.
First of all, it's not the "ultimate judge."

That's a straw man.

Second, how exactly would you test for that?

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When different switches and interconnect cables have an impact on the sound of an audio system...
Says who? Where exactly has this been demonstrated and how?

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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:19 PM   #10408
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Been there, done that, Joshua. OF COURSE, the switching system is almost always audible. So what? Nobody HERE, cares. Those who reject ABX testing have already found that out, then SE will demand PROOF, then Jan will cite lots of trials. And so it goes!
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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:22 PM   #10409
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Why so many people are happy with mp3?
Is the fact that so many people are happy with mp3 a proof that it's high quality audio?
I don't know. Can you tell the difference between CD and a high bitrate MP3 without peeking?

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Old 2nd March 2011, 07:34 PM   #10410
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Probably not! That just shows the 'sensitivity' of the TEST. Of course, your opinion might differ.
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