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Old 23rd April 2009, 02:22 AM   #11
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I wondered how you were doing on the land speed car there, it looks impressive. That will be a motor, wow.

Honda, they can build a motor. I'm not into them but they can build a great motor.
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Old 24th April 2009, 02:40 AM   #12
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Old 24th April 2009, 04:11 AM   #13
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Nice! I always wanted to put water injection on mine. Thought about more intercooler too but they say they only payoff if you have more boost. Camera mount is great, talk about simple.
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Old 24th April 2009, 05:05 AM   #14
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Thought about more intercooler too but they say they only payoff if you have more boost

Both water or water/meth injection and "more intercooler" are designed to cool the intake charge and can allow a motor to run higher psi without detonation.

One advantage to running a cooler charge on stock(ish) boost levels is that you could likely get away with using a lower octane fuel (methanol [windshield washer fluid] also raises octane) but both water and-or a bigger intercooler will serve this purpose.

You could save some money at the pump.....and still run a few PSI more safely.....

A nice in vehicle boost controller would be a nice addition if you were going this route......

But remember......if you motor runs a stock 12 psi and you can now run safely with 20 and you give it a spin....you'll never go back to 12 save money at the pump or not!
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Old 24th April 2009, 03:00 PM   #15
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Good thing is the PFC is a standalone ecu with external controller. I can adjust many things including rev limit and boost levels. The thing is too comprehensive for me as of now so I have to wait to use it when I have the chance to go get it tuned further east. I'm running the stock ecu now and it regulates boost at about 18psi. I don't want to go any higher than that.
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Old 25th April 2009, 07:53 PM   #17
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I looked at some boost controllers. I didn't really change the stock boost, I changed the piping on it and that makes it jump higher initially plus it runs a little higher normally but not that much. Actually I used it (boost) regularly and figured it would last longer if I didn't start cranking it way up. After the money I put into it at the time I had to catch up on other projects, needed a reliable car, etc. For a summer I worked about 2.5 hours away all week long, drove on weekends too. I was piling the miles on it and they are not known for reliability. I could not find anything back then to put a water injection system on it.

I tried to find a second intercooler and mount it, then I could have done something but no luck. Another issue is it would get hot (the weather not the motor) and retard the timing even on premium. I ran water wetter and trimmed out the grill on the intercooler, removed the big driving light in front of it, lower thermostat, etc.; just about got rid of it. Then it only did it above about 95F and after you hammered on it in a couple gears. I actually advanced the timing after I figured that out, and someone told me that was stupid. I said why, it goes faster. They said it will blow up. I said not with the ECU retarding the timing and boost every time it hears any knock, sure could feel it, and it was very sensitive. It was terrible when I first drove it at stock timing, anything over 90F and it lost a bunch of power. Note this was after I put all new lifters in it because they were rattling. Then I ran midgrade under 50F or so, regular around freezing or below....was what I could get away with. The timing was something like 1.5-2 degree more than stock IIRC when I got done with it. With that car you could nearly tell what the temperature outside was by how it acted, made me think a larger intercooler would be a good idea even at stock boost.
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