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Old 14th December 2008, 01:34 AM   #1
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http://www.december212012.com/articl...ishing_Bee.htm

I don't necissarily support or agree with any of the theories of this Dec. 21, 2012 stuff. But this article in itself is mostly pure facts and I thought it would help if more people were aware. It could afterall make a large difference in our lives and the lives of people in the future.
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Old 14th December 2008, 03:11 AM   #2
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Hello M50, Interesting post. I have studied this a little, but not in depth. I have a friend who started bee keeping this last spring/summer, so I have a bit of a personal interest, since he is a close friend. It's kind of weird to think about, but who knows what will happen if there is a major die off of bees to pollinate the majority of our plant species, especially our food crops.

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IIRC, they have traced the bee die-off to GM foods and/or a specific insecticide.

As expected.
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Who is "they"?
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Albert Einstein once said : “If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man.”
http://www.december212012.com/articl...ishing_Bee.htm

You have to be careful with quotes from Einstein, a lot of people in the media claim things came from Einstein which didn't really come from him. Einstein makes a lot of people rich. He's the fifth highest paid dead celebrity.

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/mar/05-einstein-inc

http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/26/top...hisSpeed=20000

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http://www.snopes.com/quotes/einstein/bees.asp

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All in all, this looks like a classic case of a useful quote's being invented and put into the mouth of a famous person for political purposes.
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I've been looking into this Einstein and anti-aether mania for at least 30 years. I found a lot of interesting books in the library in the 1980's which discuss aether theories and relativity, and came to the conclusion that there isn't enough information to say the aether doesn't exist. More recently, I found that the internet is a good source for this type of information and where to find it in books and articles.

I found this recently:
http://books.google.com/books?id=U2m...+the+lord+born

At the bottom of the page it says:
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**According to Born, 'Lorentz...probably never became a relativist at all, and only paid lip service to Einstein, to avoid arguments'.
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When I visited Lorentz a few years before his death, his skepticism had not changed…he probably never became a relativist at all, and only paid lip-service to Einstein at times in order to avoid argument.
http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath571/kmath571.htm

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Here's an interesting book I found.

Progress in Space-Time Physics 1987
Edited by James Paul Wesley

A review of the book from Foundations of Physics, Vol. 19, No. 2, 1989
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/...eview-1989.pdf

Progress in Space-Time Physics preface to page 35
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/...preface-35.pdf

pages 269-273 Book Review
Einstein's Relativity the Greatest Fallacy in the Twentieth Century
by Sharad D. Tipnis
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/...gan269-273.pdf
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Boy, those physicists sure don't like arguments!
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Note the part here in the "Relativity Revolution" chapter of The Farce of Physics by Bryan G. Wallace.

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"Two scientists were dismissed because they discovered some facts which contradicted Einstein. It is not only dangerous to speak against Einstein, but which is worse it is impossible to publish anything which might be considered as contradiction to his theory."
http://surf.de.uu.net/bookland/sci/f...ce_7.html#SEC7

More here: http://www.geocities.com/sciliteratu...ityDebates.htm
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Wow, no wonder my GPS keeps getting me lost.
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