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Old 22nd November 2007, 05:29 PM   #1
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There was a topic about the Coldamp guy Ssanmor who is banned now because he was here with a nickname.
Is this not a bit overreacting, I mean he did not harm anyone and I can only say he looks like a decent person and I appreciated his input here.
He never did anything rude or unrespectful. If you find this nickname thing so bad and bann him for this is just childish/shortsighted. A bit of tolerance could not harm here.
Pitty really. There are/were much worse people here on the forum.
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Old 22nd November 2007, 06:44 PM   #2
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If you find this nickname thing so bad and ban him for this is just childish/shortsighted. A bit of tolerance could not harm here.
The banning was neither childish or shortsighted. He broke the rules and he payed the price.

Why should he be immune to rules we all have to follow?

5) Usage of multiple registrations for the same person and/or same internet access account is not permitted without prior approval of the site, and may result in a permanent ban of the individual and/or account holder.
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Old 22nd November 2007, 07:32 PM   #3
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The banning was neither childish or shortsighted. He broke the rules and he payed the price.

Why should he be immune to rules we all have to follow?

5) Usage of multiple registrations for the same person and/or same internet access account is not permitted without prior approval of the site, and may result in a permanent ban of the individual and/or account holder.

sigh!!!!
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Old 22nd November 2007, 08:50 PM   #4
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The esteem and regard for a forum like this, and with this the future for it is in my opinion dependent on members being honest to each other. To fake that you are an ordinary member and promote your own company can be regarded as hoax or fraud.
So do you really want this to happen more frequently by defending such behavior? I´m sure that the vast majority of members want seriousness and honesty to be what direct us.
This may not prevent us from making jokes, but the incident was far from a joke and violated the rules as stated above!

Thus, my thoughts are going in the direction; how can we avoid something similar to happen again?
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Old 22nd November 2007, 09:00 PM   #5
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The esteem and regard for a forum like this, and with this the future for it is in my opinion dependent on members being honest to each other. To fake that you are an ordinary member and promote your own company can be regarded as hoax or fraud.
So do you really want this to happen more frequently by defending such behavior? I´m sure that the vast majority of members want seriousness and honesty to be what direct us.
This may not prevent us from making jokes, but the incident was far from a joke and violated the rules as stated above!

Thus, my thoughts are going in the direction; how can we avoid something similar to happen again?
Ofcourse there are rules but honestly, what bad, dishonest thing did the man do? To name it fraud is a bit over the top. He only gave himself another name, maybe in the book of rules this does not stroke with the forums rules but I still cannot find this a thing to bann a person. A warning could have been more appropriate. He was in no way disrespectful or rude.
I still find this a very shortsigted/narrow minded way of behaviour. Ofcourse he did wrong but to ban him is just
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Old 22nd November 2007, 10:05 PM   #6
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Those who do not want to obey to this (below) should not join the forum in the first place....so what is your purpose with your protest? Don´t blame the moderators but the guy who tried to fool us. Personally; he did something wrong to me, and could have fooled me to make a buying decision based on faked facts!

Enough said as this isn´t strongly connected to class D issues but more a question of ethics/morale.

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Old 22nd November 2007, 10:57 PM   #7
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Rules are there for the protection of the members. Failure to adhere to or not bothering to read the rules should always mandate the consequence spelled out in that rule. No matter if any harm was done to other members. It is the only way a forum this big can protect itself from commercial interest disguised as friendly advice.
 
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He only gave himself another name, maybe in the book of rules this does not stroke with the forums rules but I still cannot find this a thing to bann a person.

I still find this a very shortsigted/narrow minded way of behaviour. Ofcourse he did wrong but to ban him is just
I think that he commited these two faults:

1- Advertising his own product to other forum members by simulating a satisfied user, leading to increased sales and more profit by lying to forum members.

2- Learning how to make decent class D amplifiers and switching mode power suppliers with the help of several forum members by simulating a naive DIYer asking for help. At first, when he joined the forum and he started his company, he didn't have a clue about switching power electronics.

3- The deceiving process was planned in advance and it was mantained during a time period exceeding one year.

So he learnt with our help, he earned money with our help and he deceived us in exchange. In my opinion, this is far more offensive than just having a dumb day and writting some rude posts.
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Old 23rd November 2007, 06:32 AM   #9
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Bert why are you taking so much interest in ssanmor/pierre case.....what kind of relationship you are having with coldamp ??

Why are you defending his case......did he contacted you to resolve his case??
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Old 23rd November 2007, 06:40 AM   #10
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Due to the multitude of variables in any situation, it’s never safe to say that Rules should be absolute in every situation – but it this case I completely agree with Eva – Mr. Sergio Sanchez Moreno was blatantly dishonest in many respects:-

Mr. Sergio Sanchez Moreno posting as both ssanmor and Pierre deceivingly self promoted his own products.

Displayed a complete lack of understanding of both Class D and SMPS design knowledge and ability. Asking “Competitors” such as Jan-Peter of Hypex and other forum users to help design / reveal IP for his own product design.

“He never did anything rude or unrespectful.”

Either you have not fully read all the posts by Pierre or you have very different moral standards to myself.

Not only did Mr. Sergio Sanchez Moreno display a complete lack of electronics design understanding in the field of switching electronics, but his early Switching designs where lethally dangers – with NO REGARD TO SAFTY Isolation/ Creepage Distances. He was (is) obviously selling power supply designs without performing Hi-Pot testing. Note: - I have not had a chance to see his later design revisions.

Awhile back, I was asked by a friend to repair his UCD / SPS80 unit which was tripping his apartments Earth leakage breaker every time the unit was powered up. I discovered that the TO220 main switching MOSFET’s where mounted to the chassis frame with less then 0.2mm clearance between the Live TO220 Tab and chassis frame. The silicon isolation pads (the Gray Rubber Type) which are not designed to be used as a Safety Isolation barrier – had broken down around the vicinity of the centre mounting hole – which was not used as the switching devices are clamped to the mounting frame via a Metal Bar. The Metal tab of the TO220 around its mounting screw hole was miss-aligned with the isolation pad’s mounting hole allowing a direct live connection to chassis frame – which luckily was earth. All devices where mounted in a similar fashion.

Once Mr. Sergio Sanchez Moreno was made “aware” of this fatal design flaw which should never have been made, he changed the Primary Side devices to IsoPack types (Fully Plastic encapsulated package). However, Live Primary side PCB tracking to Metal frame clearance was still very much less then the Golden rule of atleast 8.5mm in many places. These very basic and LETHAL design errors should not have been made on a design connected directly to the live mains supply.

With such poor PCB and construction, based on lack of experience displayed by the designer, I would be very concerned about the design of the Transformer isolation. I suspect however, that there’s a good chance that the Magnetics where design by a third party as it requires a very high degree of skill to design safe and optimal Magnetics for SMPS designs (That’s not saying that the designs transformers are safe nor optimal - I have not tested them, nor examined there construction as obviously I was not in a position to disassemble one).

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