Cooling a DYS bulb - Page 4

Tritoch84 · 19th February 2005, 06:12 AM

Man your quick! It's around 12ft or so away, but it does look darker in the pictures. I'll give it a flip around in a few, see what happens. I did play with the settings on the LCD, nothing improves the contrast problem with the colors, but it might just be a weakness in this setup. It's really ok with me, but if it could look better, then I should try. I remember looking at other peoples setups, and they looked alot brighter, so after a cleaning, and a flip of the fraynel(see if it helps), it might look alot better, if not, thats fine to. Thanks for (quick!) replys.

Tritoch84 · 19th February 2005, 07:33 AM

I flipped the lens, and did not fix my blurring problem, which I still can't figure out.

But it DID make my blurry image TEN times sharper, so it must have been flipped the other way around? In some of my 2-D fighting games, it looks like I can see lines in certian parts, but I think that might have been there all along, with the blur hiding it. In anycase, I'll take the sharpness over the blurry anyday!

Looks alot better, and little brighter, but I still haven't fixed the light leakage on this baby, so thats going to help alot to.

Tritoch84 · 26th February 2005, 07:52 AM

Someone said something about the color index not being that good using these types of OHP's, and was wondering....

would a lexan UV filter help, or worsen the problem? Doesn't it improve your color index? And I would think that these things would be shooting out tons of UV's.....

tjh · 26th February 2005, 01:27 PM

I put a piece of Lexan XL from Home Depot ($5) in below the fresnels. Don't know how much UV comes out of these, but figured it would be worth the extra layer of heat protection. I don't know that much about optics but I think the only thing it would improve would be to cut down on UV, not the color index.

As far as halogen bulbs go, they are supposedly very yellow in color compared to a metal halide or some other types of bulbs.

Tritoch84 · 28th February 2005, 07:26 PM

Ok, I'm an idiot....

Anyway, my old Apollo AI-1000 has a small turning knob on the side of it, I look inside, and nothing is connected to the knob, it's just turning in the inside with nothing on it. All my OHP has is the light bulb, it's small reflector, and the wiring, but at the top left of it, looking towards the reflection, there is a orange knob, that doesn't turn anything....

Whats supposed to be there? I don't see anything in this pic either

The inside of this apollo A1-1000 looks just like the inside of mine, except mine has orange wiring instead of the blue.

tjh · 28th February 2005, 08:48 PM

Any chance you could put up a pic of the orange knob your talking about? The only one I know of that is any use is the one on the lens to adjust it. There are 4 other ones that were attached to the side of mine on little brackets, I believe so that one could roll film or some other long sheet across, but I'm not sure.

Tritoch84 · 1st March 2005, 11:35 PM

I think your right! (about the knob).

Now, I just posted in a thread about someone who wants more light from a 600watt bulb setup. And I was wondering, to make it brighter, and get the best use of the light these OHP's make, why not make some sort of custom reflector? My OHP has a little reflector, are their any ideas on how to get all the wasted light to go up?

something like aluminum wrap all around the bottom? I have no idea.

I'm guessing anything that would not reflect the light evenly would look messy and terrible, and I don't know what kind of stuff I could use.

That is, if it would even help the light output in the first place.

Bah, just wondering.

EDIT: I just noticed my reflector is rather old and dull looking. Wonder if I got a new reflector how much it would improve the light output.

bodgy · 2nd March 2005, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tritoch84
My OHP has a little reflector, are their any ideas on how to get all the wasted light to go up?

a condensor lens might help

Quote:

EDIT: I just noticed my reflector is rather old and dull looking. Wonder if I got a new reflector how much it would improve the light output.

i'd polish it first

Tritoch84 · 3rd March 2005, 03:24 AM

You just posted in another thread that these bulbs really only have an output of 2000/3000 lumens, which makes sense, as it's not as bright as some of the setups I've seen.

I guess I now have to go the expensive metal halide route I was trying to avoid. 160 bucks for a cheap MH setup for a rig that cost 80 bucks.

Oh well. Guess I'll be doing that next year when I have the funds.

tylerheatherly · 29th May 2005, 07:48 PM

Hey, i was wondering if you had had any more pictures of the projectors guts or have any drawn scematics, as I took mine appart to put in another case and ended up with one extra wire.

Thanks for your help,
Tyler (about-blank@houston.rr.com)

26th February 2005, 01:27 PM	#34
tjh diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: RI, USA	I put a piece of Lexan XL from Home Depot ($5) in below the fresnels. Don't know how much UV comes out of these, but figured it would be worth the extra layer of heat protection. I don't know that much about optics but I think the only thing it would improve would be to cut down on UV, not the color index. As far as halogen bulbs go, they are supposedly very yellow in color compared to a metal halide or some other types of bulbs. __________________ 6/12/06: Redesigning everything, finally putting in the Ushio S400DD.

28th February 2005, 08:48 PM	#36
tjh diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: RI, USA	Any chance you could put up a pic of the orange knob your talking about? The only one I know of that is any use is the one on the lens to adjust it. There are 4 other ones that were attached to the side of mine on little brackets, I believe so that one could roll film or some other long sheet across, but I'm not sure. __________________ 6/12/06: Redesigning everything, finally putting in the Ushio S400DD.

29th May 2005, 07:48 PM	#40
tylerheatherly diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas	Looking for pictures/scematics for the Apollo A1-1000 Hey, i was wondering if you had had any more pictures of the projectors guts or have any drawn scematics, as I took mine appart to put in another case and ended up with one extra wire. Thanks for your help, Tyler (about-blank@houston.rr.com)

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19th February 2005, 06:12 AM	#31
Tritoch84 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Shreveport, LA	Man your quick! It's around 12ft or so away, but it does look darker in the pictures. I'll give it a flip around in a few, see what happens. I did play with the settings on the LCD, nothing improves the contrast problem with the colors, but it might just be a weakness in this setup. It's really ok with me, but if it could look better, then I should try. I remember looking at other peoples setups, and they looked alot brighter, so after a cleaning, and a flip of the fraynel(see if it helps), it might look alot better, if not, thats fine to. Thanks for (quick!) replys.

19th February 2005, 07:33 AM	#32
Tritoch84 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Shreveport, LA	I flipped the lens, and did not fix my blurring problem, which I still can't figure out. But it DID make my blurry image TEN times sharper, so it must have been flipped the other way around? In some of my 2-D fighting games, it looks like I can see lines in certian parts, but I think that might have been there all along, with the blur hiding it. In anycase, I'll take the sharpness over the blurry anyday! Looks alot better, and little brighter, but I still haven't fixed the light leakage on this baby, so thats going to help alot to.

26th February 2005, 07:52 AM	#33
Tritoch84 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Shreveport, LA	Someone said something about the color index not being that good using these types of OHP's, and was wondering.... would a lexan UV filter help, or worsen the problem? Doesn't it improve your color index? And I would think that these things would be shooting out tons of UV's.....

28th February 2005, 07:26 PM	#35
Tritoch84 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Shreveport, LA	Ok, I'm an idiot.... Anyway, my old Apollo AI-1000 has a small turning knob on the side of it, I look inside, and nothing is connected to the knob, it's just turning in the inside with nothing on it. All my OHP has is the light bulb, it's small reflector, and the wiring, but at the top left of it, looking towards the reflection, there is a orange knob, that doesn't turn anything.... Whats supposed to be there? I don't see anything in this pic either The inside of this apollo A1-1000 looks just like the inside of mine, except mine has orange wiring instead of the blue.

1st March 2005, 11:35 PM	#37
Tritoch84 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Shreveport, LA	I think your right! (about the knob). Now, I just posted in a thread about someone who wants more light from a 600watt bulb setup. And I was wondering, to make it brighter, and get the best use of the light these OHP's make, why not make some sort of custom reflector? My OHP has a little reflector, are their any ideas on how to get all the wasted light to go up? something like aluminum wrap all around the bottom? I have no idea. I'm guessing anything that would not reflect the light evenly would look messy and terrible, and I don't know what kind of stuff I could use. That is, if it would even help the light output in the first place. Bah, just wondering. EDIT: I just noticed my reflector is rather old and dull looking. Wonder if I got a new reflector how much it would improve the light output.

3rd March 2005, 03:24 AM	#39
Tritoch84 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Shreveport, LA	You just posted in another thread that these bulbs really only have an output of 2000/3000 lumens, which makes sense, as it's not as bright as some of the setups I've seen. I guess I now have to go the expensive metal halide route I was trying to avoid. 160 bucks for a cheap MH setup for a rig that cost 80 bucks. Oh well. Guess I'll be doing that next year when I have the funds.

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