... Well I guess, I might be able to get to the 110 dB At most frequencies I still have a CDPro2M laying around. Would it be possible to feed I2S signal from the cd player into the DCN28DAV? Probable keeping the wires very short (10 cm or so).
I currious how the DCN28DAV will compare with its rival products. Pricewise I think it wil be somewhere between a DCX2496 and a DEQX PDC-2.6P (also because its only the pcbs). Question is of course where will it be in terms of quality and capabilities..
Anyway its good to see more usable products of this type.
I currious how the DCN28DAV will compare with its rival products. Pricewise I think it wil be somewhere between a DCX2496 and a DEQX PDC-2.6P (also because its only the pcbs). Question is of course where will it be in terms of quality and capabilities..
Anyway its good to see more usable products of this type.
Robert GS said:
-110dB should do.
Hello Robert,
I am also in the run for a digital filter. Are you going to release measurements when the product is finished?
I've used the behringer DCX but I think it lacks quality for usage in high end systems. The filter works perfect, but I loose clarity. The dcx brings in too much noise, which gets worse with complicated filters. Hopefully you solved all this!
How long before spring?!
Best regards,
Martijn
Hello Martijn.
Very good – I look forward to sell you one or as many as you like!!!
No – why should I? People will only compare the measurements to the rather misguiding specs of ex. DCX?
Sorry – I couldn’t help it – of course I will populate specs, but it might not be as “good” as my competitors’ products. Then what can you use that for?
Me too – I got the DCX for my Disco, but even modified a bit it doesn’t perform. What the heck – it’s a very old construction and very cheap!
This might be the hardware (PCB design and construction) or the DSP (66MIPS and 48kHz –DCN23 is around 500MIPS) or all of it! I doubt it’s the converters, but...
I really hope so too. The DCN23 performs much better than the DCX – so I think I have a good chance of succeeding with the DCN28DAV too, but then again…?
To me it has been spring for months as the hardware proto is working, but…soon hopefully.
Very good – I look forward to sell you one or as many as you like!!!
No – why should I?
People will only compare the measurements to the rather misguiding specs of ex. DCX? Sorry – I couldn’t help it – of course I will populate specs, but it might not be as “good” as my competitors’ products. Then what can you use that for?
Me too – I got the DCX for my Disco, but even modified a bit it doesn’t perform. What the heck – it’s a very old construction and very cheap!
This might be the hardware (PCB design and construction) or the DSP (66MIPS and 48kHz –DCN23 is around 500MIPS) or all of it! I doubt it’s the converters, but...
I really hope so too. The DCN23 performs much better than the DCX – so I think I have a good chance of succeeding with the DCN28DAV too, but then again…?
To me it has been spring for months as the hardware proto is working, but…soon hopefully.
Robert GS said:No – why should I?
I'm guessing that the people that don't want to buy a DCX will not comare stock DCX specs (Behringer does not even specs a lot actually) with yours. And by showing measurements, at least we know that you don't sell ********
If they are as good as the groundsound amps you should have nothing to worry about. I have never seen any good measurements of the DCX actually...Actually internal processing is 96 Khz. And since it does IIR just as is DCN23 the filters will be basically the same, and will therefore need an equal amount of processing. You could also say that the DCX DSP is much more efficient... You don't offer much more filter option than the DCX so there should not be a whole lot of difference. The advantage DCN DSP is that is has better processing features such as dithering. But simply comparing MIPS is just to easy...
Anyway, what DSP is the DCN28 going to have?
Okay you got me on that - I didn't know how many specs they show and I have had the measurements on the homepage for ages without really showing them!! The pics have been uploaded for more than one and a half year, but I have forgotten to code the DCN23 page! Embarrassing – thank you for making me aware.
Okay – it’s so easy, then I’m much better at doing something right, but what?
I haven’t counted the numbers of filter, but you can’t ignore the fact that the ADSP 21065 only has 66MIPS. How much more efficient can the processor be?
I don’t use any dithering = noise – noise is introduced in the ADC/input buffer, so why add more?
Robert GS said:Okay you got me on that - I didn't know how many specs they show and I have had the measurements on the homepage for ages without really showing them!! The pics have been uploaded for more than one and a half year, but I have forgotten to code the DCN23 page! Embarrassing – thank you for making me aware.
I would really be interested in them
Okay – it’s so easy, then I’m much better at doing something right, but what?
I never said it was easy... It's just easy to compare MIPS and say that based on that one is better than the other..
I haven’t counted the numbers of filter, but you can’t ignore the fact that the ADSP 21065 only has 66MIPS. How much more efficient can the processor be?
Well, I tried to get some more information on that, but it is very difficult to compare the two, since Ti doesn't actually offer a low of information on it's internal workings. Counting MIPS can be done in lots of ways...
I don’t use any dithering = noise – noise is introduced in the ADC/input buffer, so why add more?
Well, what else do you do to get from the internal data format to the 24 bits that go into the DAC? Dithering might introduce a bit of extra noise, but you will also gain resolution. Without it, you will get a bit more THD. So it's a choice you can make.. Anyway, dither in 24 bit audio will be below the rest of the noise, and you could therefore argue the need of dithering in 24 bit audio applications.
Showing measurements might give you more potential buyers. The people I know who are interested in Groundsound will only buy a Groundsound when there are proven specs (or when pricing is like behringer style). I am one of them. Showing good measurements will distinguish yourself in a positive way from the competitors that don't publish testresults and therefor may be talking rubbish.
PLease keep us informed! We appreciate it!
PLease keep us informed! We appreciate it!
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