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Old 7th December 2005, 09:41 PM   #21
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Hi all, how sad a story this must be, i for one feel for this guy
cause i have experienced ban only too well in philosophical
forums, anyway from what ive seen so far, youre a hardcore
objectivist i have high respect for objectivists becuase they
try to catch up in high tech areas of art, as a scientist who
creates art with science i welcome you, i have a lot to learn
from you my friend, cheer up
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Old 8th December 2005, 04:03 AM   #22
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Usually it is not what you say, but rather the way that you say it.

If you disagree with someone, it is OK to express disagreement and present a case as to why you disagree and even find the flaws in someone else's presentation. But it is rude to enter an argument telling someone that they are liars and what they say is false. No one wants to hear that. Even if you are right and he is wrong.
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Old 8th December 2005, 07:09 AM   #23
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Usually it is not what you say, but rather the way that you say it.

If you disagree with someone, it is OK to express disagreement and present a case as to why you disagree and even find the flaws in someone else's presentation. But it is rude to enter an argument telling someone that they are liars and what they say is false. No one wants to hear that. Even if you are right and he is wrong.

it as happened on this forum.but thanks to the moderators who have interviened(check spelling) at right time.
most ugly form is racial or ethnic refrences. they must be avoided at all cost 4 they try to hurt the very roots of this great forum.what has race etc to with the intellect?
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Old 8th December 2005, 07:39 AM   #24
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It seems that people who have attained certain levels of prominece find very poor moral affordibility
Mr Löesch, your presence here is affordable, and a luxury.
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Old 8th December 2005, 09:04 AM   #25
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Usually it is not what you say, but rather the way that you say it.

...snip..

Indeed, that is the key. Forgetting that other members are human beings and have feelings.


Some of our most memorable food-fights have arisen from knowlegeable members who battle like stags, becoming more and more entrenched in their positions. They are so used to having "the last word" in normal dicussions, that they just can't put it down. This can then degenerate to a personal level argument - which we do not allow
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Old 8th December 2005, 09:11 PM   #26
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I would think the moderators have the toughest job to play with
here's a scenario
two knowledgeable members are fighting out one gets banned the
other leaves the forum because he thinks the forums is going
down hill

we lost two good members

i think the moderators should think twice before they take action
because a heated discussion has a begining and ending by its
own accord not to mention how entertaining it would be to others

How do you moderate? you do by moderation for example

you show an example of politeness by saying a joke this will
divert the spirits and bring peace

i am not a moderator or even an expert on moderation but it
would be good when things go bad moderators would come in
with jokes to cool things off

cheers
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Old 8th December 2005, 09:14 PM   #27
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Some forums seem to use heavy water for thier moderation.
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Old 8th December 2005, 09:21 PM   #28
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Old 8th December 2005, 09:26 PM   #29
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Sy not bad at all, if you would like to upgrade your skill, there are
many good joke books around, and you know what the joker
is a joke -joking!
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Old 8th December 2005, 09:45 PM   #30
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Hi mastertech,
I would hazard a guess that most moderation is simply enforcing the rules as evenly as one can.

Personal attacks are one of them. There is a grey area and it is up to the member is define where he is.

Bad language is pretty clear. Since most of us are adults, involking moderation is the members fault. Moderators are the last resort so to speak.

One also has to expect some comments from other members from time to time. An overreaction to this is not helpful to anyone.

So the board is like life. Be an adult and don't break the rules. Otherwise you can expect to talk to a "cop".

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