Switchable Hi-Z input impedance, how ?

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my, this fet amp looks just like tube amp
 

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jfets are supposed to be the masters of hi-Z input

how high input impedance can we achieve using tube only ?

The control grid of a triode tube has very high impenence. It's basically an open circuit. But you can't use it that way. You must provide a path from grid to ground and the minimum size grid leak" resister will be found in the tube data sheet. For most preamp tubes I thinkit's about 2M but "everyone uses a 1M grid leak resistor and most of these get soldered to the input jack. The input impedance is the same as this resistor.

But ask yourself, do you really want more than 1M? Why? I think you will get even more noise pickup from the environment
 
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You must provide a path from grid to ground and the minimum size grid leak" resister will be found in the tube data sheet.

ahh, I often go back and read again, in case I missed something :rolleyes:

looking at ecc81
it says 1M limiting value
I suppose this means 1M is max recommended value 'grid leak resistor'
but if thats also the resulting imput impedance, it would be just fine

so far so good :)
 
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this 'thing' has instrument hi-Z input, and connects directly to USB port
even has headphone out

not really cheap, but what else do you need
plug it into your home stereo media streamer
or via PC with all kinds of software
and thats it

very tempting
 

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hey, I chopped this out of a probably nice amp

but I wonder, running this at just above 100V+, maybe it would make a nice buffered distortion preamp
only part of it ofcourse

btw, I night have found my preferred bass sound
adding just a little touch of natural growl, and its almost similar to the gnarly sound of a real acoustic double bass
which I happen to like a lot
 

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also, this might be cool

both gain and frequency adjustable :rolleyes:

still need output buffer to drive a solid state amp :mischiev:
either the same mosfet
or I have some 6C19n that ought to run fine on this 'lowered' voltage

well, easier said than done :clown:

hey, maybe the 6C19n would make nice distortion with even lower voltage:scratch::faint:

hmm, I would need two input options, with a switch
one with all mosfets, and one with tube coupled in
but thats the least of my problems
is this completely nuts
 

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The answer to getting hi input Z at AC whilst maintaining that lower max Rg1 value for the input tube was in an earlier post (D96 was it?). Divide the cathode bias resitor, bypass the top resistor and connect the RG1 to the junction of the 2 resistors instead of 0V.
That is BOOTSTRAP the Rg1. DC wise you still meet the max Rg1 requiremnt (and it is at DC where it is important) but you also increase the effective AC impedance.
Cheers,
Ian
 
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The answer to getting hi input Z at AC whilst maintaining that lower max Rg1 value for the input tube..........

maybe I understand what you are saying, but only slowly :D

it bothered me that the 6C19n might not be suited fore Hi-Z input :confused:

btw, I removed one att

I think D96 said that I could use the cathode bias like a gain control
but now I want to use as distortion gain control

not yet sure how much gain I will have, or how much I need
I got a nice DIY stereo power amp yesterday
built it a long time ago, and now got it back

will try a few experiments
 

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Divide the cathode bias resitor, bypass the top resistor and connect the RG1 to the junction of the 2 resistors instead of 0V.
That is BOOTSTRAP the Rg1. DC wise you still meet the max Rg1 requiremnt (and it is at DC where it is important) but you also increase the effective AC impedance.
Cheers,
Ian

something like this :confused:

I remembered now that max grid resistance of 6C19n would be 500K
but should be no problem to have a jfet in front of it
apart from the 'problem' with different voltage
I was trying to avoid that by using a mosfet instead(2sk2013)
at least I suppose it would be ok with this higher voltage

btw, I plan to have a switch with 3 different cap size fore the cathode/gain control, and pot adjust will be on front, or as rotary switch with fixed resistors
if possible at all
 

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Yes,
Something exactly like that.
The signal voltage at the cathode follows the signal voltage on the grid. For AC signals the signal across Rg1 is therefore about 1/10th what it would be if the Rg1 were tied to 0V instead - for AC signals therefore Rg1 looks to be about 10 times as large. So if you use a 500K resistor for Rg1 it will look like about 5 Meg Ohms as far as its AC input impedance goes.

Of-course there is nothing wrong with the proposed JFet buffer either - the boostrap arrangement might just be a little easier (less parts).

Cheers,
Ian
Cheers,
Ian
 
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