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Old 6th June 2009, 01:36 AM   #1
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Dear All.

I'm in the paper design stage of a bass guitar preamp.

In the middle of the thing I want to put an equaliser. And as I am into valves, I want to build a valve one.

I've found this diagram, http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Vers.../Equalizer.htm

I've modelled the main elements, and they seem to work well.

What I'm after are any insights regarding the frequencies for the equaliser. Having sniffed round various guitar shops, it seems that the options are many and various.

I have seen them with starting frequencies as low as 32hz, then they double, [octave] up to about 10k. Others are 50/100/200 etc., and ones with bigger gaps.

Any thought would be most gratefully received.

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Old 6th June 2009, 01:50 AM   #2
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Use parametrical EQ, it is more convenient for bass guitar.
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Old 6th June 2009, 02:11 AM   #3
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hi.

Thanks for your reply, do you mean a filter that has separate Q, centre frequency and amplitude controls?

If so, how many? three or four? any idea of ranges?

Why would a parametric eq be better?

Look forward to hearing from you.

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hi.

Thanks for your reply, do you mean a filter that has separate Q, centre frequency and amplitude controls?

If so, how many? three or four? any idea of ranges?

Why would a parametric eq be better?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards

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Old 6th June 2009, 09:40 AM   #5
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still interested to hear why you believe parametric eq to be better.

look forward to hearing from you.

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Old 6th June 2009, 01:55 PM   #6
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Sort of making plans for a tube bass preamp this interests me too

The equalizer posted by billr seems a bit overkill to me
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Old 6th June 2009, 02:12 PM   #7
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In my bass rig I use a SansAmp RBI for a preamp(solid state) and it doesn't have parametric EQ but in the past I have used other preamps that did(Peavey Ampeg SVP Pro and a few others). Having it is a nice feature since it allows you to put a notch or hump in the frequency response curve and then move it around to find a "sweet spot" very easily and quickly. I would say however that if the frequency bands are chosen carefully and they happen to work well with your bass that something with standard EQ like the Sansamp would work just fine too.
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The bass guitar has quite a narrow band of frequencies to work with. An equaliser would have to be based around those.

Personally I would skip the equaliser and get into bass guitar effects pedals. Thye can really make a huge difference.
Zoom do a great pedal.
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still interested to hear why you believe parametric eq to be better.

I don't believe! I like it for the convenience. As well as my friend John Pursel likes it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U3pKSu1BU0
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I don't believe! I like it for the convenience. As well as my friend John Pursel likes it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U3pKSu1BU0

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