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Old 7th November 2006, 05:03 AM   #1
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looking for info on modding a black russian i have already done the true bypass looking for creamy mods and such
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Old 7th November 2006, 08:47 AM   #2
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What on earth are you talking about?
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Old 7th November 2006, 10:50 AM   #3
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Apparently. Made in Russia.
Lousy thread title and cryptic post almost guarantee no useful answers.

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Old 8th November 2006, 01:34 AM   #4
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yea now that i look at it again the thread title could have been alot better sorry
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Old 12th November 2006, 02:44 AM   #5
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The New ones look likethe photo below,

USA Big Muff Pi "made in NYC original"

Like the legendary Big Muff Pi of the 70's, the reissue has three controls that let the player dial in the finest harmonic distortion/sustain ever produced. The Volume control adjusts the output level. The Sustain control optimizes the long sustain with just the right amount of harmonic distortion. The Tone control provides a range of sounds, from warm bass to crisp treble..

You can get those oldies on ebay, or the new ones at "cough Cough" Guitar Center
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The New ones look likethe photo below,

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Hi, so do the "old" ones, not many know there was a 741 in there, /sreten.
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Old 17th November 2006, 03:36 PM   #7
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No, never a 741.

They were discrete transistors.

They all sound different depending on the transistors used, the caps used and especially the batch of diodes used.

You can make two with identical schematics but different vintage parts and they will sound very different.

That's the hint on the mods.

If you want another sort of sound, try the Ibenez "tube screamer" type schematic. I think that's what they are called...

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Old 21st November 2006, 10:30 AM   #8
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No, never a 741.
They were discrete transistors.
They all sound different depending on the transistors used, the caps used and especially the batch of diodes used.
You can make two with identical schematics but different vintage parts and they will sound very different.
That's the hint on the mods.
If you want another sort of sound, try the Ibenez "tube screamer" type schematic. I think that's what they are called...

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Hmmm..... well I've taken one apart and fixed it, 741 there was, /sreten.
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If you want another sort of sound, try the Ibenez "tube screamer" type schematic. I think that's what they are called...
Me like, I used to own four! I hardly play these days, but I think I still have one of the Sound Tank variants somewhere...
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Old 26th November 2006, 09:19 PM   #10
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Ok,

Well I have no idea what you took apart or whatever - the original Big Muff Pi is/was descrete transistors.

At some point in time the ownership of the company "Electro-Harmonix" passed from the original owner(s) to others. At that point, who knows what was put inside the box! Subsequently, fast forward a few decades, one of the original owners reaquired the rights to the name - thus the present re-issues and the Russian imports.

Of this I am 100% certain.

I probably own one of the earliest Big Muff Pi boxes, alleged to have been "borrowed" from Jimi Hendrix. It is point to point soldered on perf board. I also have an early PCB only from Electro Harmonix, it is descrete transistors as well...

The schematic is probably up on the web in a few different places, fwiw.

No matter... but if you want the real thing, it'll have descrete transistors...

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