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Old 15th November 2005, 08:08 PM   #11
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I have been wanting to buy a electric guitar kit from carvin for some time, but I would rather source from a canadian supplier rather than cross-border ship and pay exchange.
I believe Carvin has added quite a reasonable shipping option to Canada in the last couple of years; nothing much better out there. I bought mine years ago by shipping it to a friend in the US and picking it up myself.
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Old 15th November 2005, 09:00 PM   #12
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Pinkmouse is right, stay faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from MDF if you want a responsive guitar. :-)

There are lots of different woods to choose from, they all sound different. Even a piece of maple can be a lot different(not nessecerely better or worse) from another piece of the same species. It all depends on how you want the guitar to sound and feel :Just as an example: Maple often makes a very clear sounding instrument, but not as responsive or rich-sounding as Mahogany(often a little less clear). A jazz guitarist might prefer the maple guitar, a blues guitarist would probably prefer the mahogany guitar.

A great place for more info:
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whats wrong with MDF? The body might have high dampening and be acoustically dead, but arent the strings the part that are supposed to vibrate anyway?

if we want a very resonant instrument wouldnt using something like metal be a better idea?
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Old 15th November 2005, 10:45 PM   #14
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whats wrong with MDF? The body might have high dampening and be acoustically dead, but arent the strings the part that are supposed to vibrate anyway?
Current thinking among luthiers is that a great sounding electrical guitar must sound good acoustically. The "plank of wood with pickups" model for guitar making went out the window a long time ago.

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if we want a very resonant instrument wouldnt using something like metal be a better idea?
DIY National? Sounds good to me.
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The strings will not vibrate for very long if you attach them to some dead material, the string energy is quickly absorbed, you get a dull sound and much less sustain than you get with solid wood.
...Of course, if that is what you want....

Metal can be used, a little impractical in a solidbody i think. It has been used in several acoustic/semi-acoustic instruments.

You can get materials way better(and cheaper) than MDF allmost anywhere they sell lumber.

Just to name a few:
Spruce
Maple
Mahogany
Douglas Fir
Poplar
Western red Cedar
Walnut
Alder
Ash
Hemlock
Myrtle
Aspen
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As a (very) general rule, the harder/denser the wood, the more sustain you will get, but the less woody tone it will have.

Maple is damn heavy and my guitar has great sustain despite having a floating trem, but it sounds very clinical in a way, not much life and soul to it

Mahogany dives a slightly darker sound, not as sharp and more of a blusey deep tone (think les paul Vs telecaster if you like)

something like boxwood or even spruce, you will find lacks the sustain but will have a much more woody tone to it

for gods sake though if you are going to stand up and play the thing for any length of time do not use a very dense wood, it will be very heavy and tiring
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Old 16th November 2005, 12:22 AM   #17
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The strings will not vibrate for very long if you attach them to some dead material, the string energy is quickly absorbed, you get a dull sound and much less sustain than you get with solid wood.
I might like the way it sounds, who knows.

I think I might just TRY out MDF. Even though it is not recommended it might turn out better than anticipated. It might just be a flop too, in which case the golden rule of DIY will surely apply(see my signiture if you dont know what I'm talking about)

I got time to waste, money to burn, and things to learn.

P.S. the main reason I want to try MDF is because... well I have a TON of it lying around. Plus it's FAR easier than hardwood to cut and sand(I'm thinking I'm going to make a very crazy looking guitar)
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I hope it all goes well, but there could be some possible problems down the road:
MDF has a tendency to bend under constant static tension.
And on the surface MDF is harder than in the center, the neck pocket might compress between the neck and the neck plate.
It also dont hold screws very well.

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what about the coolness factor then, if you make an MDF guitar, no other guitarists will talk to you.
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Who said they'll know it's MDF...?
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