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Old 16th December 2012, 06:54 PM   #1
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hi,
I am ready to put the electronics in my amplifier project. I have pretty much finished the cabinet, or at least as much as I can without the circuitry in place.

I am sorted in terms of pre amp and power amp, but I am not sure what to do with a power supply. My power amp will use the lm3886 chip which requires about 24V, if I remember correctly. The preamp circuit requires +-15v and can be seen here; 100W Guitar Amplifier (Mk II)
There is a power supply featured on this page, would something like this do the trick?

I would also like to run some LED strip lights off it, which use roughly 12v, as well if possible to backlight parts of the cabinet.

Any schematics or a point in the direction of some would be great, any advice much appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 16th December 2012, 07:06 PM   #2
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The chipamp needs dual polarity supply.
Not a single polarity 24Vdc.
Unless you modify the chipamp schematic to work with a single polarity supply.
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Old 17th December 2012, 10:27 AM   #3
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The LM3886 also won't deliver 100 Watts...
it is rated at 86W into 4 Ohm loads.
using a 8 ohm speaker gives you about 40.

this requires a dual 28V supply, I would get a 2x20 V 80VA toroidal transformer, 6A Bridge rectifier, Filter caps (2x4700/40V should do).
the supply on the page is ok so far, but do not use the suggested 2x25V transformer, this will result in overvoltage for the LM3886!
If the +- 15V for the preamp are not reached because of the lower voltage, you can change R18/19 to 560R.


Do not forget adeqate cooling for the LM!

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Old 17th December 2012, 07:56 PM   #4
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HI,

Thanks, I am not worried about it producing 100Watts, that was just the page that happened top have the preamp on it. So it is possible to get this working then?
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Old 17th December 2012, 09:20 PM   #5
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Just saw that the 3886 can handle more than +/- 28 Volts, sorry - so go ahead, the 2 x 25V transformer should work. But I would recommend not to use a speaker below 8 Ohms then.
you are going to use a standard circuit round the 3886 then?
should be no big deal as far as i see.
If you are not familiar with power supplies and line voltage take care! have more than a second look every time. again, do not forget cooling! Attaching tle 3886 to the chassis may not be sufficient. (Heat transfer paste + isolation material anyway!!!)
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Old 21st December 2012, 07:00 PM   #6
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sorry for the delay,

ok, I have a celestion speaker that is rated at 50 watt and i belive is 4 ohm, how could i alter the supply to make this sufficient? Or would it just be easier to use a less powerful chip?

Yes, I was planning on just doing a standard circuit as this is a school project and needs to be kept to a deadline.

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Old 21st December 2012, 08:35 PM   #7
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In this case, just choose the operating voltage. Mathematically, 50 Watts @ 4 Ohms means ca 14V RMS. (U=sqrt(PxR)) Your power supply has to deliver slightly above 2 x 20 Volts then. No transformer reaches exact values at changing loads, so 2 x 15...18VAC transformer voltage will work. After rectifying and filtering this results in the required 20...24 Volts DC.
Why do you think the celestion has 4 Ohms? Is there a sticker on it or have you tried to measure with a multimeter? If you read about 6 Ohms then you have an 8 Ohm speaker.
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Old 22nd December 2012, 03:39 PM   #8
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oh ok, thats not too bad then Will that still be ok for the Preamp supply?
I'm pretty sure it is a 4 ohm as I remember there being a sticker on it, however It is currently at school so I am relying on my memory which is not always that trustworthy...
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Old 22nd December 2012, 04:33 PM   #9
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oh ok, thats not too bad then Will that still be ok for the Preamp supply?
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If your power amp runs off of say +/- 24v DC you can use a couple regulators to get the +/-15v DC for the preamp ......

When building solid state guitar amps I usually tend to design the preamp to run of off a single supply so I can run it off of the positive DC power amp supply , it saves from having to build a separate regulated supply for the preamp ......

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Old 22nd December 2012, 09:56 PM   #10
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If your power amp runs off of say +/- 24v DC you can use a couple regulators to get the +/-15v DC for the preamp ......

CHEERS
The preamp has its own Z-Diode regulation if it's the same as in the schematics. If the +/-15V cannot be reached make the two resistors smaller as I described before.
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