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Old 24th April 2012, 02:43 PM   #1
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Default Celestion "Vintage 30" - Thiele Small Parameters wanted

I am not able to find the Thiele-Small parameters about the follow website:
Classic - Vintage 30 - Celestion - Guitar, Bass & Pro Audio Speakers
Who can help?
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:47 PM   #2
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There's reason Celestion doesn't provide T-S specs - a V-30 is not a "small signal" speaker.

I don't have a V-30 to hand, but the WGS Retro 30 is similar. The cone weight is too much for the magnet, so they don't work very well in a TL. The Qts is too high for porting; they'll work best in a large, closed enclosure. While they're used in many smaller cabs and even open-backed combos, the V-30 is at home in a 4x12.
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Old 25th April 2012, 04:23 PM   #3
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There's reason Celestion doesn't provide T-S specs - a V-30 is not a "small signal" speaker.

I don't have a V-30 to hand, but the WGS Retro 30 is similar. The cone weight is too much for the magnet, so they don't work very well in a TL. The Qts is too high for porting; they'll work best in a large, closed enclosure. While they're used in many smaller cabs and even open-backed combos, the V-30 is at home in a 4x12.
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according the URL
https://wgs4.com/content/Retro30
the WGS Retro 30 has follow parameters:

Resonant Frequency (Fs) 98 Hz
DC Resistance (Re) 6.90 Ohm
Coil Inductance (Le) 0.38 mH
Mechanical Q (Qms) 15.53
Electromagnetic Q (Qes) 0.61
Total Q (Qts) 0.59
Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas) 1.35 cu ft (x 0,02832 m3 x 1000 = ~ 40 liters)
Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms) 0.10 mm/N
BL Product (BL) 13.88 T-M
Diaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms) 27.69 grams
Surface Area of Cone (Sd) 53.24 cm squared
Sound Pressure Level (spl) 100 db

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Really, if you want to play music rather than make music, you should be looking at 'pro audio' (PA) speakers. Guitar speakers are specifically designed to make 6 steel strings strung on a plank of wood sound musical at extremely high volumes. To say they are "colored" is an understatement.

Retro 30, measured close.
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Many guitar speaker have a very low Xmax. The tradeoff for maximum effeciency against linearity.
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