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Old 4th January 2012, 12:05 AM   #21
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re:'Violins don't have frets' - no, & they don't have decent guitar style tuners either, can't understand why, the trad ones are a PITA
First, not all guitars use planetary gear styles, the notable exception being traditional flamenco guitars.

The reason as i understand it is that peg weight is a factor in the resonant frequency of the violin body/neck combination, which is a factor in tone and response. Changing mass changes resonance.

Nothing preventing you from installing a fine tuner on another string other than the E. Perhaps you weren't aware of these tuners?
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Old 4th January 2012, 12:13 AM   #22
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You can use a fine-tuner (bridge screw adjuster), particularly with steel strings. Other than that the trad ones have served perfectly adequately for some centuries. You need to rub the mating surfaces and the grooves the strings run in with a bit of powdered rosin when you change strings, and learn to tune sharp with the pegs. Then you stretch the string by pulling it side to side hard until the pitch comes down. This might also involve transferring some of the tension into the unplayed length near the peg.

It's best to take an approach like this when tuning a guitar too.
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Old 4th January 2012, 12:23 AM   #23
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Hello

Here's images of a fine tuner and how it is install on a violin.

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Old 4th January 2012, 12:50 AM   #24
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I know all this stuff, but none of that mucking around would be necessary with a good set of Gotohs
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A good violin would have a whammy bar.
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Old 4th January 2012, 01:23 AM   #26
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I know all this stuff, but none of that mucking around would be necessary with a good set of Gotohs
Yes, of course, sorry.
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Old 4th January 2012, 02:02 AM   #27
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A good violin would have a whammy bar.
And humbuckers. Good for those power chords.
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Old 4th January 2012, 02:12 AM   #28
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BOT...it would be interesting to repeat the experiment with the addition of an audience of knowledgeable listeners also blind to the selection to ascertain whether the results for nearfield listening also hold for the audience location.
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Old 4th January 2012, 02:39 AM   #29
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Hypothetical question: Did Mr. Strad use the techniques and materials he did because they are the best, or because they were the best available to him at the time? What would he think of modern instruments?
He might be surprised that so many of his violins lasted this long, and especially that they're so valuable.
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How do you know that it is not just you that is getting better at playing it, or becoming more used to the sound?
This is a great question, the same sort of question that some DBT's like in the article might answer. I've heard about acoustic guitars "breaking in," but the time period claimed is at least several months and up to a couple of years. I've played a few guitars but never noticed this phenomenon. Even if I had, I'd tend to trust a DBT if it went against my own senses, knowing how unreliable human perception and memory can be.
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A good violin would have a whammy bar.
There should be a few around, some guitarists remove the whammy bar from their Stratocasters.

Maybe someone could add a whammy bar to this guitar.
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