Redeemer circuit ( for Guitars )

[leenux5030]

hi

I just came across this link " Blow it out your amp! - Redeemer Circuit "
while I was reading articles about tweaking my guitar.

and I also came across this site too, just wanted to get started with DIY, I thought Redeemer will be something interesting and useful to start with
so any one with any thoughts on this ?

Thank you

bharat

[Nigel Goodwin]

Just a simple buffer, it won't make anything sound 'amazing' unless you're doing something seriously wrong somewhere in the first place.

If you've got an active guitar, it's already buffered anyway.

[leenux5030]

no I have passive jackson stock pickups, someone suggested me that redeemer can make it sound much better.

anyways thanks

[wakibaki]

Looks to me like $49 worth of hype.

The worst thing about this gadget is that it makes your guitar dependent on a battery. The battery usually goes flat just when you most want the guitar.

A good beginners DIY project for guitar is a portable battery amp (combo). You can often re-use existing speakers or amplifiers such as an old car radio, or you can build from scratch pretty cheap.

Be careful of getting distracted by electronics, it can be a lot of fun, but getting a good sound is mostly about practice and what you do with your fingers.

w

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by leenux5030

no I have passive jackson stock pickups, someone suggested me that redeemer can make it sound much better.

What are you feeding it in to?, any proper guitar amp has a suitable high impedance input, the only (very slight) cause of concern is the guitar cable capacitance - and that has minimal effect on sensible length leads.

Does your guitar sound much worse than other peoples active guitars?, as the best it can do is make it similar to an actrive (but still with much inferior tone controls).

As wakibaki says, it's just hype - trying to sell a few cents worth of parts for $49.

[benb]

Googling FET buffer brings up a lot of simple schematics to do just this, and the parts are a lot less than $49.

[Minion]

This is what I put in my Guitar ....




Sounds great !!! aint worth $49 , it"s got about $5 worth of parts and can be built in less than an hour , Ive installed several in friends guitars ......

[leenux5030]

@ Nigel,
I use a zoom g1 processor and a Behringer v-tone 108 amp, my problem is when I play guitar I have to make a trade off between sustain of notes and clarity of notes.
and noise is so much that, even the noise gate on my guitar processor surrenders to it.

@Minion,
thanks, I think this is good to start with. please tell me more about the sound difference after installing it on guitar.

[Nigel Goodwin]

Originally Posted by leenux5030

@ Nigel,
I use a zoom g1 processor and a Behringer v-tone 108 amp, my problem is when I play guitar I have to make a trade off between sustain of notes and clarity of notes.
and noise is so much that, even the noise gate on my guitar processor surrenders to it.

And why would you expect this circuit to help that in any way?.

Using sustain or overdrive is noisey because of the huge gains involved.

@Minion,
thanks, I think this is good to start with. please tell me more about the sound difference after installing it on guitar.

The IC preamp shown only has an input impedance of 480K, which is pretty middling as guitar inputs go. But it gives a gain of about 20 times, and reduces any effects of the cable following it.

You'll certainly hear a difference, but only because of the extra gain.

Incidently, if you've got an active DI box, this has a high input impedance and a low output impedance and will have a similar 'effect' to the 'redeemer'.

[wakibaki]

Originally Posted by leenux5030

when I play guitar I have to make a trade off between sustain of notes and clarity of notes.
and noise is so much that, even the noise gate on my guitar processor surrenders to it.

That's life...

The Jackson pickups you have have a reasonable reputation. Get a Fender, Marshall, Vox, Orange, Peavey or other amplifier with a good reputation, preferably a valve (tube) one, although this is not essential, it doesn't have to be very powerful either. Listen to some amps on YouTube.

Learn to get the best out of the equipment you have. Changing the action of your guitar, the gauge of the strings and the pickup-to-string spacing can have a big effect on the clarity and sustain. Read some web pages on guitar set-up. Setting up the guitar can take a long time the first time, because you don't know where you are going and you have to try many variations. Sometimes you have to accept that the guitar will be harder work to play if you are going to get the sound that you want.

It's a mistake to think that more electronics is the answer once you've got a decent amplifier and guitar. After you've got those you can't really buy a good sound.

w