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Old 11th September 2009, 12:17 PM   #31
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Hi Charles

Compared to ESP I think I would prefer this GL
http://www.musik-schmidt.de/gb-G-L-T...eck-Natur.html

I have doubts about active vs passive
But having both with a optional switch would be nice

It could seem like devellopment is focused on 5-string, so that 4-string is somehow on a standstill

For a really cheap bass this Dean looks interesting
http://www.musik-schmidt.de/gb-Krame...-Metallic.html
The Kramer version, a look-alike, ehh
http://www.musik-schmidt.de/gb-Krame...-Metallic.html
Made by Cort maybe?

4-string Kramer, looks quite good for the money, but is it
http://www.musik-schmidt.de/gb-Krame...-420-S-BM.html
Some small details appears to look even better than many other basses at twice the price, or more
Maybe the low price is due to being made in huge bundles, and sold for education purpos
Could it be much better than the price indicates

Its scaring how much you can order cheap from china
Very good looking stuff
But hard to judge the quality
I do know that even tiny flaws can make it close to useless
If its unplayable, nice woods and fancy look wont help much

I know how to build a violin, so ofcourse I would like to build my own bass
The obvious choise would be to build a Carvin kit
Not the cheapest option, but at least I would learn something

Books
Does anyone know about a good educational book, with mensur measurements etc ?

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Old 21st September 2009, 11:18 PM   #32
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McGee horn and driver arrived

Amazing what you can get for very little money these days
And it sounds way better than expected
Very hifi-like
Not very loud though

Also decided on a woofer, PD 15"
http://www.precision-devices.com/showdetails.asp?id=79
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Old 22nd September 2009, 09:54 AM   #33
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So you didn't go for Beyma's 212 ? I'd like to make a small combo with one of the Neo Beyma's. 3.5 kg for a driver with 350 watts of power handling capacity is not bad at all and makes transport easier. You will not reach low B with this one but it could give a compact and reasonably loud box:

http://profesional.beyma.com/ingles/pdf/12MW%20Nd.pdf

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Old 24th October 2009, 09:58 PM   #34
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I'd like to make a small combo with one of the Neo Beyma's. 3.5 kg for a driver with 350 watts of power handling capacity is not bad at all and makes transport easier.

You will not reach low B with this one but it could give a compact and reasonably loud box:

Charles
I have decided to build my own bassguitar
Have just bought some lovely wood
On its way from US now
So it will proably take a while until Im ready to build speaker/amp combo
Just so that you dont sit waiting on my results

The neoBeyma does look real nice
But once hitting the strings real hard I could fear it will run out of Xmax
Which was one reason I decided fore the PD 15"
But I wouldnt know as Im not really familiar with instrumental speakers
But I do want a setup which can pound real hard, and clean, just fore the fun of it
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Old 26th October 2009, 03:41 PM   #35
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But once hitting the strings real hard I could fear it will run out of Xmax
Which was one reason I decided fore the PD 15"
But I wouldnt know as Im not really familiar with instrumental speakers
But I do want a setup which can pound real hard, and clean, just fore the fun of it
Then take two of them just for even more fun

I wish you good luck on your DIY bass. What will it be - an ordinary four-string ? What pickups ? Will it be neck-through or bolt-on neck ? Since I don't belong to the people with two left hands but rather to the ones with "four left feet" - I wouldn't make a serious attempt on building a bass myself. But when I was a schoolboy I once built a very primitive one that even worked but it did neither have great playability nor great tone.

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Old 26th October 2009, 06:02 PM   #36
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I once built a very primitive one that even worked but it did neither have great playability nor great tone.
Carvin sells a complete kit that just needs assembling and finish
Its not that much cheaper than their cheapest ready to play bass, but you have the option of giving it your own touch

I will build a 4-string
I dont really like the look of ordinary neckthrough
It will be somewhat halfway neckthrough/setin neck
Semi hollow chambered body with carved top/back
It will be neckless, but with a modified neck with violin style scroll
Maybe I will try a piezo pickup
Books from Stewart-MacDonald arrived today
Im afraid this wont be cheap, but I will have lots of fun, and learn something new

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Old 3rd December 2009, 04:37 AM   #37
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Well I guess this is OT now but in respose to tobee's original question I would recommend an 18 and one or two eights (eminence Alphas come to mind). I've played 4 string for almost20 years now and had always used a single 15 till fairly recently. Big improvement. Its pretty hard to beat big drivers for bass (darn those physics) esp if bass is what you're intimately involved with. as for the mids and high end, I dont consider 10's and 12's that great at solving that issue. I even had an 8x10 cab for a few years and you would think that the vast number of them would at least partially overcome the beaming issue but no, still pretty bad. Like a previous poster said, I would definately build a multiway cab with crossovers (dont think a tweeter is something you want but you can build up to that later quite easily anyway). The few 3 ways I have tried actually sounded quite natural. At any rate, a cab with one 18 and one 8 will cover a whole lot of bases(pun intended).
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Old 6th December 2009, 04:01 AM   #38
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Nice

How about this 12" Beyma fullrange to supplement 15-18" woofer - it takes 250-500watt, and not expencive

http://www.beyma.de/fileadmin/seiten...nal/12GA50.pdf
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Wow I think that is the first time I've seen a 12" with a whizzer cone on it. I give a hearty thumbs up. It would be cheaper than 2 8's aswell.
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Old 7th December 2009, 09:28 AM   #40
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Wow , amazing this is amazing
I haven't seen such a cone before
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