guitar tone I can't find....

[snoop40]

I have read a book that has the guitar rigs of most of todays players but as Eddie Van Halen said
"tone starts at the finger tips"

[screamersusa]

Originally posted by snoop40
I have read a book that has the guitar rigs of most of todays players but as Eddie Van Halen said
"tone starts at the finger tips"

Very true...but it ends at the amp. In many cases it then goes back into the fingers. You either create perfect notes without listening to yourself (or caring), or you create a "moment" and an environment with al your tools interreacting.

There's a guy around here that always has a tinny 4k piercing tone no matter what or whose guitar he plays through or any amp set any way. That backs up Eddie's quote.

On the other side we have an exquisite guitarist around here who always sounds like crap as he is too lazy to bring out a decent rig (He has a few). He plays through one of my ugly prototype rigs at the club and everyone without exception insists he always use it when he's there. He does play much better with it and makes less mistakes, he also gets "lost" sometimes and electrifies the audience. Not with his normal rig however.

[screamersusa]

One last update on the Trademark 60.

I tested with an rta. The warrior 12 reflects the sans amp output quite accurately down to around 50hz. It rolls off a little faster on the top end and the sans amp rolls to zero at 5k.

The punch control on ch1 is a mid at about 740hz and to set it flat
run it at about 10:30.
The bite is a big upper end bell shaped boost at 2.8k

The Growl on ch 2 is a low/high combo boost.

Weep does not affect eq.

The effect return is POST boost, reverb, high and low. So I assume the effect send includes those.

If you rin a tri-ac or other preamp inot the effect return you loose the boost and reverb for the added preamp.
The tri-ac marshall tones sound decent directly into ch1. tweak the punch to taste and you be able to use the boost again.
I smell some DIY upgrades coming..

[unclejed613]

Originally posted by screamersusa


Very true...but it ends at the amp. In many cases it then goes back into the fingers. You either create perfect notes without listening to yourself (or caring), or you create a "moment" and an environment with al your tools interreacting.

There's a guy around here that always has a tinny 4k piercing tone no matter what or whose guitar he plays through or any amp set any way. That backs up Eddie's quote.

On the other side we have an exquisite guitarist around here who always sounds like crap as he is too lazy to bring out a decent rig (He has a few). He plays through one of my ugly prototype rigs at the club and everyone without exception insists he always use it when he's there. He does play much better with it and makes less mistakes, he also gets "lost" sometimes and electrifies the audience. Not with his normal rig however.

i do the same thing (or used to, i haven't had a guitar for quite a while). when playing throug an amp with a mediocre sound, i play mediocre. when i get the right sound, i get lost, and close my eyes and play without knowing how much time has passed, and draw a crowd..... i've played "semi-pro" a long time ago, and i'm primarily a bass player, but getting the right sound just does something amazing to me with a guitar in my hands.....

[jash]

i think i,ve heard the sound your talking about. the late great stevie ray vaughan on "in step" and his austin city limit dvd. his string gauge was like barb wire and his equiptment can be found in guitar player "how to play like srv".