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Old 25th November 2007, 06:53 PM   #1
moo is offline moo  United Kingdom
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Default Effect pedals vs amplifier EQ.


I am planning to build a tube guitar/bass amplifier and I am trying to learn about the sound of electric guitar and amplification before I start anything. I do have hundreds of question but I’ll start with a few..

As I see almost all electric guitar players use effects one time or another either live or in studio. My question is why modern amps are still packed with endless combination of settings? Wouldn’t bass, mid and treble suffice? How often do guitarists switch between the “on board” lead/distortion and clean settings without using effect (such as tube screamer/overdrive/distortion) pedals at all?

Thanks in advance for you input.

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Old 25th November 2007, 09:49 PM   #2
Minion is offline Minion  Canada
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Well I personally like Limited controlls on my amps, I usually just have a Bass/Mid/Treble controll and a Pre and Post Volume and maybe a couple overdrive sounds and use effects pedals if I need a Different sound.....

I guess now a days with DSP Processing and digital effects a lot of amp manufacturers are trying to out do other Amp makers and are adding endless functions to the amps that make them even more difficult to get the tone you want because of the Complexity of learning what every button and knob does.....

I never had much luck with building Tube amps for some reason but I have built a couple Solid State amps that sound pretty good, If you have never built an amp before you might want to get your feet wet and build a Solid state amp or maybe a few effects pedals as you don"t have to deal with Fatal voltages with solid state circuits but a Tube amp can kill you pretty quick if you aren"t very carefull.....

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Old 26th November 2007, 02:04 AM   #3
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i am not much of a guitar player but i do appreciate good sound. i have built a solid state amp and a few tube amps, but they're all hi fi amps.

my plan is to build a very simple guitar amp, all tubes (including rectifier), hard wired, as few controls as possible and let the effect pedals take care of the "special" sounds.
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Old 26th November 2007, 02:30 AM   #4
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Hey moo, you should check out the Fender Champ; its a 5W SE tube amp that sounds really good. You could get a kit for places like http://www.tedweber.com/ or by simply obtaining the schematics for it from http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/. Heres another person thinking about building this amp Champion

Minion, I completely agree with you and in fact things are really getting out of hand! Check out Greg Mackie's newest guitar amp design at
http://www.mackie.com/products/hotwire/index.html. His amp boasts a fully-configurable vacuum tube circuitry with 12 distinct wiring modes. I wonder how good this amp actually sounds?
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Old 26th November 2007, 03:01 AM   #5
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The Mackie link above will not work but this will:
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