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Old 8th June 2009, 04:51 PM   #41
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This sounds like a customs fraud plan. Good luck with it!
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Old 8th June 2009, 04:53 PM   #42
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If your willing to go to the States to do a Pickup JTKTAN then there should be no issue coming back with the heatsinks. You donít need a receipt of sale just get a letter of transfer from Russ stating that they were a gift from him or even a FREE item to strictly be picked up State side. If there is no sale, no exchange of money, there are no duties on the item. Hence if they ask you say no I didnít buy anything today and no I do not have anything to declare. You are not lying, and in fact if your just transporting goods you donít have to tell them anything other than what you have, not where it came from or what you paid.

I wonder, can customs officers read?

I have a problem with the ridiculous brokerage fee that USP charges but you are talking about evading taxes - taxes that pay for the benefits we enjoy in this country.

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Old 8th June 2009, 04:54 PM   #43
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no need to start a war here

I am saying is that I will legit declare everything... what I hoping is that the large order will be cheaper to ship to NY and then split it when we get here

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Old 8th June 2009, 05:34 PM   #44
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LOL, Syn08 yeah a plan has to come together in order for it to be a plan, these were simply options to a solution, which youíve yet to contribute to with any ideas. But thanks for the comment none the lessÖ I'm sure you have some ideas why not share them....

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I wonder, can customs officers read?


So do I, seems it would be mandatory, but not always enforced it seems LOL.... But I got the point and edited the postÖ.

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I have a problem with the ridiculous brokerage fee that USP charges but you are talking about evading taxes - taxes that pay for the benefits we enjoy in this country.



I'm not trying to avoid anything, I'd be willing to pay the duties I'm concerned with shipping. We aren't going to get into the politics of where our TAXES go and what benefits we enjoy from them, not the place nor time, I'm looking for options here. But I highly doubt the taxes recovered from brokerage fee's allows me the privilege of having my appendix out or my Neurological issues to be dealt with...

I'm not into doing illegal things nor do I encourage it, but if your all concerned about duties and having to pay the piper so to speak then the alternatives are there if you wish to use them. I won't dismiss it nor will I condone it, if your willing to chance it then go for it, this thread is here for the purpose of procurement of the Heatsinks from Russ, and within this thread also lies the methods of us trying to obtain these heatsinks at an affordable enough price to compete directly with R-Theta. Shipping and DUTIES are part of this unfortunately but there are always ways around this.

Russ is in Michigan, which borders with Canada in the Sault area, Russ could arrange a drive to Canada with the heatsinks and meet a fellow Canuck whoís up there and avoid the whole shipping ordeal altogether.... but that's not his place or responsibility. But I know as a businessman I've done crazier things to get my clients their product.

Bottom line is weíre all here for the same reason to seek out the heatsinks. Us Canadian folk are trying to find out ways to make it more economically feasible, if I have to bend rules then so be it, but there is no way Iím going to feel bad about it. There has to be a way of us doing this without the bickering and non helpful comments, if you have something good to say, say it, if not, well you know the drillÖ.

Iím looking for options not opinions on how morally and ethically wrong our suggestions are. Iím looking for options regarding the procurement of the heatsinks, nothing more, nothing less. Please rest assured that I donít in any way condone any illegal activity, but if the option for bending the rules arises you better be damned sure Iím going to take it no questions asked.

Honestly the shipping will determine if I can afford to buy from Russ, needing the 6-8 feet will put me over R-thetaís minimum but they arenít offering direct to the DIY community like Russ is, and why you give a guy like Russ the nod instead of the Home TeamÖ Iíd love to find a way to make it affordable, but in order to do this we need Ďusefulí suggestions as how to obtain this goalÖ. Peace and keep well.
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Old 8th June 2009, 05:52 PM   #45
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I agree. To say that our taxes go here or there is mute. ALL of the personal income tax goes to the central bank to pay a dozen families who enslave the western world, and the country is run by the booze, smoke, gambling... We do need to start a revolution!
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Not to hijack your thread barredboss, just a thought for my countrymen grumbling about duties....

We are the land of AlCan and aluminum is actually far cheaper here than in the US. I can buy .062" aluminum for chassis RETAIL at 1/2 the price of a US wholesaler. We can't make these things...... why?
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Thank you Geek, This is what I'm talking about with regards to options. Yes we could more than likely get them through R-Theta or similar and have the tooling done anywhere that provides the service. I guess it's more of a help the guy who helps out the DIYer sort of thingy.

Rather than continuing to hijack this thread in the name of us Canadian folk, maybe I'll start another thread and see if there is interest enough for some serious concideration on our own tooled heatsinks. Unfortuneatly for us to do a non-standard extrusion we would end up having to pay for the tooling costs which may be cost prohibitive. If we stick to a standard available extrusion I'm sure we could work a deal that would amount to quite a savings, not that Russell isn't providing one, it just may be impossible for him to beat a local manufacturer.

Anyone want to show your hands for our own Canadian heatsink thread?
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Old 8th June 2009, 07:14 PM   #48
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Not meaning to sound judgemental...


I regularly (once a year) order materials from a US specialty supplier and the biggest ding is the brokerage fee from UPS. There is no customs duty on US made product but there is GST.

On my last order (several months ago) the order total was ~$2000US and the extra for shipping, brokerage and tax was $268US. CODB.
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Old 8th June 2009, 07:23 PM   #49
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LOL, Syn08 yeah a plan has to come together in order for it to be a plan, these were simply options to a solution, which youíve yet to contribute to with any ideas.
If you plan to bend the rules, why don't you keep this private, between yourself and your mates into this kind of rule benting business?

I have suggested an option for small customers as myself: 2 x 5" sections for under $50 is the best of all worlds. No taxes (US or Canadian) reasonable shipping (under 20lbs, fits in a flat rate box), no brokerage fees, Canada Post will drop it at your gate. This is a good way to beat the r-theta prices and I would happily go for it, if possible.

Over and out.
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Not meaning to sound judgemental...


I regularly (once a year) order materials from a US specialty supplier and the biggest ding is the brokerage fee from UPS. There is no customs duty on US made product but there is GST.

On my last order (several months ago) the order total was ~$2000US and the extra for shipping, brokerage and tax was $268US. CODB.
go register a business name, and then sign up with UPS as a business for brokerage purposes.. they don't charge you those high rates

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