Digitally controlled preamp/headphone amp

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Re: Modifications

DcibeL said:
I'll replace the 12V zeners on the My_Ref with these as well if they turn out okay. Here's what I have for low noise regulator design. I think it's about as good as you can ask for with the LM317/337 regulators:


Is there a necessity to placing the two zeners in parallel? If the diodes aren't matched one will tend to hog current.

It may be gilding the lilly, but here's a LM317 regulator cleanup circuit where the noise is measured in nanovolts, the performance only limited by the opamp used and various resistances:

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The Zeners are there to provide a very low dynamic impedance at the adjust pin, so two in parallel will lower this impedance even more. It has nothing to do with current flowing through them, so if one hogs a bit there's no worry. I don't really even need the 10uF cap in there when using zeners instead of a resistor, but it's not going to hurt anything so why not.

See here for more information on using the LM317/337. I was thinking of building a super regulator, but I do want it to fit easily in the current regulator location, and it would just have too many parts to make this possible (plus add a fair bit to the cost).

I built the regulators last night, I just have to cut them out of the veroboard and test them now.
 
BrianDonegan said:
DcibeL: Good lucj with the regulators. Let us know how it turns out.


Jason: Do you want to use these for balanced or SE inputs? You could use a pair for balanced stereo, and link the PIC outputs from one board to both boards. They do work well as a preamp. Can even use the LM4563 instead of OPA2227 since the current demands for a pre are much lower than for a head amp. BTW, they have on-board PSUs.


No just normal SE. So i guess i would order 2 kits plus the transformer.

Would i be able to use one pot to control both modules ? Would the volume go up together or would they be out of sync ?
 
One pot for both modules would work just fine. Connect the wiper pin to both modules, but only connect 5V and ground on one module

The first thing I did was jumper a wire from pin3 to pin1 on the PGA2311 because the PIC used for this project cannot set pin3 high on it's own
Wow I messed that sentence up. That should be jumper pin1 to pin4 because the PIC can't set pin1 high on its own.
 
BrianDonegan said:
You would use a single pot and a single PIC. The output of the PIC would be linked to the PGA2311 on both boards, so tracking would be identical.


Perfect, this is going to work even better than i thought :)

Jase

How many steps does this volume pot have ? is it really small increments ?
 
DcibeL said:
The Zeners are there to provide a very low dynamic impedance at the adjust pin, so two in parallel will lower this impedance even more. It has nothing to do with current flowing through them, so if one hogs a bit there's no worry. I don't really even need the 10uF cap in there when using zeners instead of a resistor, but it's not going to hurt anything so why not.
If you really want to improve the reference use something like an embedded reference and some temperature compensation. 2 zeners isn't going to do much.

Bob Pease has a nice piece on the why's of bypassing the LM317 adjust pin on the National Semi website -- here's a demonstration of the effect using a 5223 storage scope and 5a22n differential amplifier:

No bypass:
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220uF bypass:
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A couple of zeners will do a better job at bypassing the adjust pin than a resistor and a cap will. I found some 47uF low ESR caps left over from other builds that I will use in place of the 10uF cap.

I wanted to build something small that could easily be substituted for the 78/79xx regulators that was better, and I believe this circuit will fit nicely. I'm not going to change it now, since the regulators are nearly complete.
 
DcibeL said:
I thought I already did. The impedance of the zener will be lower than the value of the resistor that would be in it's place otherwise. Two zeners in parallel further reduces this impedance.

The impedance of the regulator circuit is entirely dominated by C1/C2. The junction capacitance of a 1W zener is pretty small (a few pf).

You might get a hair lower noise since the zener noise of the two diodes are uncorrelated.

Now you might want to sweep that circuit over temperature and tell us how the two parallel zeners perform.
 
Hi again,
I made a USB NOS DAC plus headamp for my Dad who is a dentist about to retire: he began to love navigating through Youtube and listening some opera singer from the past...just as his son!

USB receiver comes from Doede, NOS DAC is self made "á la Doede" and headamp is the famous Kookaburra with OPA2227 opamps.

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I used a front plate which belonged to his ancient dental machine, Japanese, very well made...
The box was difficult to make even with wood parts...two stores.

The sound is warm and inviting, not the best in detail but one that lets get listened to very easily, and the bass is terribly good.

Cheers,
M
 
I was inspired by the Kookaburra design to use the same PIC and code to control two PGA2310's. The difference is that I have the digital logic going straight to two PGA2310's. I didn't use pull-up resistors (47k) or series resistors (10k) as shown on TI PGA2310-EVM (eval board.) I don't know if these are required but I am not getting the VC's to control signal level at all with a perfectly good 0-5V input to PIC. I also used a potentiometer and ADC inside PIC as Russ & Brian have done. Are those resistors most likely the missing link?
 
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