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Old 24th April 2014, 04:38 AM   #11
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maybe yes simplest sounds better but not skipping essential things (your source must then have its own amplifier if you say it sounds well)

but that silver wire c.rap i am not buying smells like some audiophile stuff
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Old 24th April 2014, 05:11 AM   #12
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ANY DAC Can drive HD650 without an amp with a standard 1.5-2mV output
That means you can (voltage-wise) drive your HD650's directly from a microphone?
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Haha I was thinking a turntable cartridge! Who needs preamps and amps when you have headphones sensitive enough to be driven with a nice MC cartridge!

In all seriousness though how bout some pics of the disassembled cable?
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Old 24th April 2014, 06:09 AM   #13
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I'm thinking that doubling the wire for the Return terminal could have something to do with opening up more bandwidth for the signal to return so it doesn't reside in the driver(similarly to damping factor for speakers), while a thinner cable for (+) increases the soundstage in the upper highs due to lower resistance, and overall lower capacitance as opposed to using 2 strands for return and 2 strands for (+)

I hope they did some actual R&D on this, since for now we can only theorize
About the only R&D I can really see is the work that was put into the overwrought buzzword gibberish.

The two strands for the return can carry no more current than is going through the single strand positive (see Kirchhoff's Law). The second return would only very slightly reduce the overall loop resistance and raise the capacitance a bit for no good reason.

A simple pair of appropriately sized wires would work just fine. But everyone has to come up with something "different" in order to stand out so they invent all manner of "problems" for which they offer the cure.

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Old 24th April 2014, 07:52 PM   #14
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You say you will never use a headphone amp, which sounds like you've never even tried one (or you would probably realize just how much better they can make the sound), yet you chastise someone for (so you incorrectly assumed) posting without hearing the headphones in question?

Are both "return" wires connected together at both ends? Maybe one is a shield...
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The guy was either very confused or trolling. He says you don't need an amp because you can drive the HD650 perfectly fine with only 2mV
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