HD650 cable

kffern · 24th August 2011, 12:36 PM

Hi,
Not sure which is the right place for this but here goes but my whippet chewed my cables.
Which is the better cable for a HD650, Mogami W2534 or W2893?
MOGAMI® - Neglex Quad Cables

I know cardas is the choice but I need something cheaper. What other choices are there? Anyone have the specs for Cardas 4x24 awg?

Thanks,
kffern

kffern · 24th August 2011, 12:41 PM

I am also considering this
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but the seller won't reply to my request for postage.
kffern

nightanole · 24th August 2011, 01:03 PM

W2893 its more stranded and more flexible.

W2534 is for running over with your car. Its almost 2x thicker and hard to work with, its not worth it for the jump from 26guage to 24guage.

Another idea is to get some sheathing and using this guy:

eBay My World - navships

silver plated teflon is alot easier to work with then mic cable.

qusp · 01:59 PM

i would stay away from the navships stuff, i dont know why its recommended so often (other than being cheap), anyone who has actually used it for a headphone cable would know that its microphonic as hell, so the sleeving and damping thats needed to make a useful headphone cable makes it absolutely NOT easier to use than mogami. whats hard about using mic cable? i dont understand, you strip it, terminate it, done. no twisting, braiding, shielding (if you please), damping or sleeving.

the cardas 4 x 24 is pretty decent, but i would actually use mogami W3106 if you can get it, its dual channel, basically its the mogami quad split into 2 pairs which are individually shielded but bonded together and its still very flexible, so basically al the work is done for you.

mace1337 · 24th August 2011, 02:00 PM

I bought an original HD650 cable off of ebay from this guy:

Genuine SENNHEISER Replacement Cable HD650 # 92885 cord | eBay

It's cheap and original.

qusp · 24th August 2011, 02:03 PM

yeah but really its also pretty crap, not hard to improve on with a bit of elbow grease and i dont even mean sonically

nightanole · 24th August 2011, 03:00 PM

Ive used navship's 28gauge, spiral wrapped with a drill, with cotton sleeving and it turned out pretty good and has held up well.

I also like the W3106, but im fine with big cables. I wouldnt use it with iem's or smaller cans, but hd650's are pretty big.

qusp · 24th August 2011, 04:14 PM

oh yeah sure, its ok, but it absolutely needs to be treated as you say or it really is nasty microphonic and at that point i query whether its easier than using microphone cable. hehe navships iem cables now that would be funny, maybe er4S or some customs. i think its the teflon he uses, its quite thick for the gauge and it seems at least on the stuff i have to be very tightly bonded, like its extruded onto the wire, so stripping it is a pain. dont know what gauge it is i have of his, think its 26ga. still good for low level internal wiring in projects but i havent used it for headphones since the first time.

kffern · 24th August 2011, 11:00 PM

Thanks guys,
The navships cable I linked previously is shielded and 3.5mm diam.
He just won't respond.

I would like to match the 2 Mogami cables with the specs of the Cardas 4x24awg.
I have the plugs on the way.
Thanks,
kffern

woodturner-fran · 25th August 2011, 12:08 AM

If you do go the road of needing braiding there's a seller on ebay "furryletters" is the cheapest around with a big variety of sizes colours etc.

I made a set (forked out for the cardas connectors) but the cable broke a few times at the connector. PITA. If I was doing it again I would buy a replacement cable and attach the new wire about 1/2" from the connector. Not ideal I know (I know!!) but reliable at least.

Fran

24th August 2011, 12:36 PM	#1
kffern diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Perth	HD650 cable Hi, Not sure which is the right place for this but here goes but my whippet chewed my cables. Which is the better cable for a HD650, Mogami W2534 or W2893? MOGAMI® - Neglex Quad Cables I know cardas is the choice but I need something cheaper. What other choices are there? Anyone have the specs for Cardas 4x24 awg? Thanks, kffern

24th August 2011, 01:56 PM	#4
qusp is choosing a less facetious title... diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia	i would stay away from the navships stuff, i dont know why its recommended so often (other than being cheap), anyone who has actually used it for a headphone cable would know that its microphonic as hell, so the sleeving and damping thats needed to make a useful headphone cable makes it absolutely NOT easier to use than mogami. whats hard about using mic cable? i dont understand, you strip it, terminate it, done. no twisting, braiding, shielding (if you please), damping or sleeving. the cardas 4 x 24 is pretty decent, but i would actually use mogami W3106 if you can get it, its dual channel, basically its the mogami quad split into 2 pairs which are individually shielded but bonded together and its still very flexible, so basically al the work is done for you. Last edited by qusp; 24th August 2011 at 01:59 PM.

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24th August 2011, 12:41 PM	#2
kffern diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Perth	I am also considering this eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d?r but the seller won't reply to my request for postage. kffern

24th August 2011, 01:03 PM	#3
nightanole diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	W2893 its more stranded and more flexible. W2534 is for running over with your car. Its almost 2x thicker and hard to work with, its not worth it for the jump from 26guage to 24guage. Another idea is to get some sheathing and using this guy: eBay My World - navships silver plated teflon is alot easier to work with then mic cable.

24th August 2011, 02:00 PM	#5
mace1337 diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005	I bought an original HD650 cable off of ebay from this guy: Genuine SENNHEISER Replacement Cable HD650 # 92885 cord \| eBay It's cheap and original.

24th August 2011, 02:03 PM	#6
qusp is choosing a less facetious title... diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia	yeah but really its also pretty crap, not hard to improve on with a bit of elbow grease and i dont even mean sonically

24th August 2011, 03:00 PM	#7
nightanole diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	Ive used navship's 28gauge, spiral wrapped with a drill, with cotton sleeving and it turned out pretty good and has held up well. I also like the W3106, but im fine with big cables. I wouldnt use it with iem's or smaller cans, but hd650's are pretty big.

24th August 2011, 04:14 PM	#8
qusp is choosing a less facetious title... diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia	oh yeah sure, its ok, but it absolutely needs to be treated as you say or it really is nasty microphonic and at that point i query whether its easier than using microphone cable. hehe navships iem cables now that would be funny, maybe er4S or some customs. i think its the teflon he uses, its quite thick for the gauge and it seems at least on the stuff i have to be very tightly bonded, like its extruded onto the wire, so stripping it is a pain. dont know what gauge it is i have of his, think its 26ga. still good for low level internal wiring in projects but i havent used it for headphones since the first time.

24th August 2011, 11:00 PM	#9
kffern diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Perth	Thanks guys, The navships cable I linked previously is shielded and 3.5mm diam. He just won't respond. I would like to match the 2 Mogami cables with the specs of the Cardas 4x24awg. I have the plugs on the way. Thanks, kffern

25th August 2011, 12:08 AM	#10
woodturner-fran diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ireland	If you do go the road of needing braiding there's a seller on ebay "furryletters" is the cheapest around with a big variety of sizes colours etc. I made a set (forked out for the cardas connectors) but the cable broke a few times at the connector. PITA. If I was doing it again I would buy a replacement cable and attach the new wire about 1/2" from the connector. Not ideal I know (I know!!) but reliable at least. Fran