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Old 11th September 2008, 09:41 AM   #1001
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Butterworth characteristic requires Q to be 1/SqRt(2)=0.707
A three pole Butterworth uses a cascaded pair of passive single pole and active two pole.
The passive has a Q=0.707, this requires the active two pole to have Q=1.0
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Old 11th September 2008, 12:37 PM   #1002
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Phillipe -

Q refers to the shape of the filter - lower Q filters have a shallow initial rolloff before reaching their final rolloff. Higher Q filters have sharper corners and may even have a peak before rolling off.

I've forgotten the Q of a butterworth filter, but there is more to it than the electrical filter slope. You need to combine the response of the driver with with the filter to get the net acoustic response you desire.

You may find that you can use a 2nd order electrical filter to achieve a 3rd or even fourth order target depending on the drivers.

Before inexpensive simulators, we used the named filter shapes because there were tables to help us calculate component values. Now just plug your measured data into a sim program and adjust the filter to reach your target response.

It's a little more work with free programs, but you can use an electrical simulator like LTSpice to generate a filter with the transfer function created in something like speaker workshop. Simulate, build, measure, adjust the sim to match measured data, repeat.
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Old 23rd September 2008, 10:36 AM   #1003
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Hi Bob,
I was just wondering (since there seems to be little activity on the Forum) whether there was any (good) news for those of us on the waiting list?
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Alan
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Old 23rd September 2008, 12:56 PM   #1004
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Yes, Alan, I'm just about ready to release the leftovers. You should be hearing from me shortly.
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Old 23rd September 2008, 09:59 PM   #1005
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There is Leftovers? Whats the possibility of snagging 2 boards?


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Old 24th September 2008, 09:14 AM   #1006
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I might have 6 unused boards and a whole lot of opamps, R's and Cs. Hang on and I'll let you know soon.

I might also have a hard wired 2way bread board with
- input amp with possibility of baffle step (as this approached the desired transfer function better than a 1st order baffle step)
- possibility of 2nd order baffle step
- 2 2nd order LP filters (order 1-4 to be selected with hard wire and jumpers)
- 2 2nd order HP filters (as LP)
- 2 delay functions (1-2 to be selected with hard wire)
- a peak/notch filter (can be inserted in LP or in HP filter)
Everything with multiple R's (easily changable and selectionable with jumpers).
See attachment of block schematic of the board.

Anyone interested? (I can send photos and a more detailed description).
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Old 25th September 2008, 02:26 PM   #1007
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Can you post the pictures anyways? I want to see it. Thanks.
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Old 26th September 2008, 08:43 AM   #1008
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I have to withdraw part of my offer. I can spare
- 2 unused boards
- 12 opamps OPA 2134
What's the price of boards and Opa's these days?

The offer of the bread bord will have to be postponed for (probably) months. Nonetheless I include a picture of it (sorry for the small size but the forum doesn't allow a better picture. Mail me and I'll send a better one).

Dick.
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Old 4th October 2008, 12:43 PM   #1009
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Hi all

Subwoofers often have the option of changing phase.
Does anyone know how this is done? Is it in fact a timeshift function?

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Dick.
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Old 4th October 2008, 12:55 PM   #1010
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probably done with an opamp and switch to convert between inverting and non-inverting mode.
Some have an adjustable phase control. How?
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