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Old 5th May 2005, 10:02 PM   #11
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Andrew,

1) ok, I will use a 3 pin input header, and use on as DC coubled input.

2) There is no need for a DC pot, I have not measured above 40mV DC on the output on any of the 8 channels I have build using 1% resistors and unmatched semiconductors.

About the PDF, I can make a better resulution (BIG files ), or I can post GIF pictures in stead of the PDFs

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Old 5th May 2005, 10:11 PM   #12
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Hi AndrewT.
I build the first Leach in '81 and one amp had a little offset, 73 mv.
To make this zero i added an (outboard)offsetcircuit like the KSA50.
Before building the second channell i paired the small signal transistors and when it was finished the offset was about 15 mv.
Perhaps Jens can give us his amps offset voltage?

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Old 5th May 2005, 10:16 PM   #13
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Just to make the thing complete, I will look into the DC setting,

Could someone point me to where I can find an examble of the circuit?

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Old 5th May 2005, 10:31 PM   #14
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Hi Jens,
Pinkmouse posted http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1115075661 (about post 1673?)just a couple of days ago (just my luck cos they're over 1700 posts now)
The components are VR1, R103-107, R131, D109, 110, C110, 111.
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Hi Jens, I dont 'think it is needed. But you can indeed use this circuit.
In the Krell it is connected to the feedbackside of the input circuit.
I made it more simple without R104 and R106 and placed it to the input side. R131 is 47k in my amp and I also placed a small cap from the wiper to ground.
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1 The added pads on the boards for raised front end voltage are very nice.

2 Would it be an idea, (and possible), to add Michael's triple soa protection to the board ?

3 with 10 components added for DC-zeroing you might as well make it an active offet regulation with an OP** opamp.
With the current layout i dont see the room for adding that many components. But i am not a pcb-designer.
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Jens,

Have you sought any comment from Prof. Leach re the boards and the layout? After almost 30 years of experience with this circuit, he may have some valuable input.
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Have you sought any comment from Prof. Leach re the boards and the layout?
On the Leach thread i suggested to ask BrianGt to approach Professor Leach for advice on the design.
Brian is a former student of Marshall Leach, and still resides in Georgia afaik.
Personally, i would be more than interested in what Professor Leach would suggest for the feedback values when using higher bandwidth devices. imo, this is/could be the V5 design.
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1 The added pads on the boards for raised front end voltage are very nice.

2 Would it be an idea, (and possible), to add Michael's triple soa protection to the board ?

3 with 10 components added for DC-zeroing you might as well make it an active offet regulation with an OP** opamp.
With the current layout i dont see the room for adding that many components. But i am not a pcb-designer.
1) Well, you always wanted those anyways, so I figured what the heck.

2) I already made a dual slope soa protection awalible on the board by adding R68 and R69

3) I played arround with the DC circuit last night, but could not fit it without redoing the input section. Should I bother or just leave it the way it is?

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I played arround with the DC circuit last night, but could not fit it without redoing the input section. Should I bother or just leave it the way it is?
speaking for myself:
i will be matching devices anyway, if needed i'll measure a number of resistors and pick the one that makes DC offset minimal, or pick a device that does that .
If the outcome doesnt please me i'll add an active offset regulation, with an amplifier as the Leach i have no problems with that.

The front part i like the way it is, is is closely nested, nice symmetrical, well separated from the current part by the big capacitor spacing.
Leave it !
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