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Old 13th December 2016, 09:46 AM   #1
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Preface

This run's boards will be exactly like 9th GB ones but with the small error on input connector fixed.

There will be, for whom is afraid of SMD soldering, the option for boards with SMD parts already hand-soldered with ROHS silver solder, thoroughly cleaned and visually inspected for 50€ more per kit, including SMD parts (a 20€ value).

This GB starts with 10 kits
already booked.

Remember to sign-up on the Google Spreadsheet to partecipate!

Now the usual (updated) opener
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The My_Ref Fremen Edition is a variation of Mauro Penasa's My_Ref with this goals:
  • a more stable and performing amp using SMD parts
  • raise LM318's PS voltage thanks to a voltage limiter
  • better PS for LM318
I've designed a brand new PCB with these features:
  • bigger caps (16mm diameter with both 7 and 5 mm pads) for C1, C2, C9
  • large use of SMD components
  • quite all small caps and some critical resistors are still through-hole
  • very small paths thanks to SMD
  • ground planes design
  • zener limiter based on schematic 5b from this link (which seems pretty similar to My_Evo one)
  • CCS shunt PS for the LM318
  • An alternate C9/R10 arrangement
  • Different grounding
  • Different compensation
  • a double diode bridge like in most gainclones
Both PCB and schematic have been tested organizing beta and release candidate mini group buys

I've been authorized by Mauro Penasa to proceed with this My_Ref derivate amp.

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You can find references on development, beta and release candidate here:

My_Ref Fremen Edition - need help on PCB evaluation - diyAudio
My_Ref Fremen Edition - Beta build/Fine tuning - diyAudio
My_Ref Fremen Edition RC - Build thread - diyAudio
My_Ref Fremen Edition - Build Thread

KSTR's measurements on beta boards (final boards measured a tiny bit better but almost the same performance):

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7th run boards measures even better (Measure by JosephK):

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Distortion goes down ten times Vs. Beta (and previous) Boards

On my Google Drive you'll find:

Schematic
Schematic (PS)
BOM
Build Tutorial

And a YouTube video on SMD soldering of FE modules.

Mouser shared projects (order 2, each project is for a SINGLE board):
Industrial BOM
Industrial BOM without SMD parts
Industrial BOM + Evo A Mod
Industrial BOM + Evo A Mod without SMD parts
On a budget BOM

Actual price will depend on number of partecipants/kits, the Group Buy is about PCBs only, with an option for SMD populated ones.

Approximate prices (one kit = 2 PCBs, PayPal fees and 1€/kit donation to DIY audio included):

10-14 kits 42€
15-19 kits 33€
20-24 kits 28€
25-29 kits 25€
30-39 kits 23€
40-50 kits 21€
100 or more 19€

Shipping prices will be (up to 2 kits, more than 2 will be calculated):

Italy 9€
Europe 13,5€
Rest of the world apart Oceania 17,5€
Oceania 18,5€

Shipping costs increased from the last GB since italian postal service raised prices, sorry.

PCBs (circa 12 x 10.5 cm) will be blue, 2mm tick, 2 Oz/70um copper, gold plated, made in Italy.

One transformer 160VA-300VA will be needed for each board (monoblock design)

BOM cost is around 67€ per board (premium industrial BOM) which can be lowered to 53€ (On a budget BOM).

Build a complete amp (premium industrial BOM with case, connectors, cabling, transformers etc.) will cost around 400€ and up.

If interested please PM me your PayPal associated email address and fill your nickname, country (2 letter code) and number of kits on the Google Spreadsheet (please leave blank the 'PP account sent' column, I'll fill it so you have a feedback that I've received your data)

January, 8 price will be fixed and I'll start sending PayPal Invoices, all payments are due by
January, 15.

Until PCB order from manifaturer is done it will be possible to partecipate to the GB

Boards will be ordered by
January, 16 and should be in my hands in 15-20 days, then packaged and shipped in a week or so.

Greetings:
Mauro Penasa for his great design and kind permission
LinuxGuru for his help on new compensation
Luka for the LM318 PS initial design
KSTR for the new C9, R10 arrangement.
Soongsc, Marce, Sebaastian, KSTR and Metal for help on PCB design
BMCBob for all support, tests and reviews
JosephK for his measurements and advice on further reducing distortion.

Images of boards from the 7th GB:

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Old 16th December 2016, 08:39 AM   #2
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If interested and willing to build this great amp please sign-up on the Google spreadsheet, PM me your email address associated with PayPal and post here something so to keep the thread visible.

More kits, lower price
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Old 16th December 2016, 10:49 PM   #3
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The 9th run boards were just great. I had 0 (zero) problems populating them , the smd components require a litle bit more patience and I would suggest you buy a magnifying glass if You don't have one. I'm listening as I write this review , just great sound , no popping, hissing or humming.For c9 I used cerafines 220uf/35v red ones and I dont think I want to experiment changing them with something else.
Thanks Dario !

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I forgot to post a picture .
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I forgot to post a picture .
Nice work

But why no heatsinks on R3 and LM317s?

On R3, at least, you should mount them.
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Yes , i have them , just not installed yet. But i checked the regulators , they are just a little warm , the resistor is not . But ill use the heatsinks anyway.
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Have you used an insulator on the back of the 3886?
If not the h/s will be at -Vsupply. This will cause problems when you mount it in an enclosure (unless you isolate the h/s from the chassis).
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I am still at testing phase, i tried both channels (they work perfectly) but with separate heatsinks , outside of the case. when ill be sure what i want , of course ill use insulators.I might want to use 4 amps with electronic crossovers, or maybe ill use 2 bridged for each channel .
Can I bridge this amps?
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Old 19th December 2016, 10:21 AM   #10
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Hi Guys,

one kit more for me.

Great job Dario.

Thanks.
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